• bloodfart
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    2 months ago

    Wow that’s crazy, so if I can’t stop the genocide with voting then why vote?

    You’re really making a great case and not alienating anyone who reads this. Keep going!

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      2 months ago

      Why, because some idiot, yourself, doesn’t know how voting works they will then proceed to not vote?

      If my vote can’t give me free ice cream why even vote at all!!!

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        2 months ago

        Let me make sure I understand correctly. Are you saying that opposition to genocide is comparable with wanting “free ice cream?”

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          2 months ago

          So youre saying you not voting will have an effect on the genocide in gaza?

          In the trolly problem, not pulling the lever results in more people dieing.

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              Well then I couldn’t possibly be comparing ice cream to genocide because the supposition is the belief that voting will have an effect on receiving ice cream.

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                objection

                I asked if you were comparing opposition to genocide to wanting “free ice cream!” The efficacy of voting has no relevance to that question!

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                  I was relating how individual wants aren’t negotiated by voting using ice cream as an example. Also voting only in a presidential election is the bare minimum to participating in American democracy. To credit yourself with absolute moral authority you would have to exhaust yourself more than just doing the bare minimum.

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                    2 months ago

                    Hold it!

                    Do you consider opposition to genocide to be an “individual want?”

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        No matter how powerfully you make the case for not voting, I’m going to cast ballot for PSL at the presidential level this year.

        You can too. No ones gonna come after you for it. You’ll be voting against trump and showing the democrats that they gotta get their shit together and run better candidates with platforms that aren’t abhorrent.

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          I could. Wouldn’t even effect the outcome in my state. Down ballot is what I show up for.

          Still voting Biden because ill put my vote where it actually has a chance of mattering. Third party is a scam. Third party needs grass roots, any other supposed means is a scam.

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            You could be those grass roots. You said yourself it won’t change your states outcome.

            Instead of voting for someone you don’t want, or against someone you don’t want, why not vote for something you do want?