I was going to say bicycle, but stick a Japanese electric motor on one of them and you’ve got a pretty nice piece of transportation.
I take my kid to kindergarten, go grocery shopping, etc on my bicycle even during rain, and it is really pleasant. Unless it takes over 40 minutes by bicycle, or the person has some kind of physical disability, I would recommended bicycles for sure. I don’t even have a driver’s license.
I mean america is rotten to the core. If you want a real solution its not gonna be cheap or easy, thats just what we get for years focused on funneling money to the shareholders instead of actual innovation.
Turns out theres countries out there that are happy to cut out this inefficiency, and so given a long enough timeframe almost have to pull ahead
Most people live in the city and don’t need cars. You’re an exception. Though an electric car isn’t going to help much for you either since sparsely populated areas lack charging stations anyway.
Phoenix, Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, and Austin all have inadequate public transportation. And together they account for 5 of the 10 biggest cities in the US by population.
What about bicycles, scooters, the bus?
Surely you have at least one of those?
If you don’t have a subway where you live, then that’s unfortunate, and I agree there is nothing you can do there.
I was trying to point out that most people with access to the subway still drive a car for some reason, and I meant that these people should use the public transportation that they have.
The person you are replying to said they live in a city of 2.2 million people, and your response is “most people live in the city?” If 2.2 million people isn’t a city, then I don’t know what is. Also, 2.2 million people in 530 sqmi is 4150 people per square mile. And you consider that sparsely populated?
I consider that shitty american urban design, which after decades is finally coming to reap what they sow; It just sucks to be the collateral in it all.
But I mean really you can’t expect that to move a 200lbs person you’d NEED 20x that weight in machine, thats a whole ass 95% error were getting sold
Absolutely nobody here is arguing that America has good urban design. We are arguing with the person who said we don’t need cars because we can all take the subway. Most Americans, even huge car enthusiasts, would love to have more public train systems if only to lower traffic so they can drive faster. Half of the country is not willing to pay for it, though.
I said most, not all, assuming at least major cities had public transportation, but I did indeed not know how bad it truly was. I grew up using a bicycle to go anywhere, then a bus, then a train, never a car.
an electric car isn’t going to help much for you either since sparsely populated areas lack charging stations
Even sparsely populated areas usually have electricity. If your house is connected to the grid, you can charge your car at home and wake up every morning with a “full tank”. DC fast charging stations are really only needed for long road trips.
I’m not NoCars than anything but I gotta agree thats definitely the dumbest reason people hate on EVs, like imagine being so used to the idea of gas stations you can’t even imagine a world without
How do you charge at home? Do you get a long extension coord and keep your door open at night? Aren’t you making the assumption that every house has an outdoor socket or even a parking spot? I sure have neither. If you live in an apartment, does your landlord offer charging at the parking?
My city has over 2.2M people, spans 530sq-mi (1,372 km2 for metric folk)…… and doesn’t have a subway. You want me to do what now?
He wants you to e-bike obviously.
I was going to say bicycle, but stick a Japanese electric motor on one of them and you’ve got a pretty nice piece of transportation. I take my kid to kindergarten, go grocery shopping, etc on my bicycle even during rain, and it is really pleasant. Unless it takes over 40 minutes by bicycle, or the person has some kind of physical disability, I would recommended bicycles for sure. I don’t even have a driver’s license.
I mean america is rotten to the core. If you want a real solution its not gonna be cheap or easy, thats just what we get for years focused on funneling money to the shareholders instead of actual innovation.
Turns out theres countries out there that are happy to cut out this inefficiency, and so given a long enough timeframe almost have to pull ahead
Sprout wings you filthy casual
Most people live in the city and don’t need cars. You’re an exception. Though an electric car isn’t going to help much for you either since sparsely populated areas lack charging stations anyway.
Phoenix, Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, and Austin all have inadequate public transportation. And together they account for 5 of the 10 biggest cities in the US by population.
And one of those is the city I live in. Their combined MSAs account for almost 25 million people that can’t just “take the subway”
What about bicycles, scooters, the bus? Surely you have at least one of those?
If you don’t have a subway where you live, then that’s unfortunate, and I agree there is nothing you can do there.
I was trying to point out that most people with access to the subway still drive a car for some reason, and I meant that these people should use the public transportation that they have.
Drive a car, there in 15 minutes.
Take a bus, there in 2 hours. Takes 40 minutes to walk to the fitst bus stop.
Bus does not run after 9pm.
If the car takes 15 minutes, the bicycle will take 30
The person you are replying to said they live in a city of 2.2 million people, and your response is “most people live in the city?” If 2.2 million people isn’t a city, then I don’t know what is. Also, 2.2 million people in 530 sqmi is 4150 people per square mile. And you consider that sparsely populated?
It is a city if it is dense.
I consider that shitty american urban design, which after decades is finally coming to reap what they sow; It just sucks to be the collateral in it all.
But I mean really you can’t expect that to move a 200lbs person you’d NEED 20x that weight in machine, thats a whole ass 95% error were getting sold
Absolutely nobody here is arguing that America has good urban design. We are arguing with the person who said we don’t need cars because we can all take the subway. Most Americans, even huge car enthusiasts, would love to have more public train systems if only to lower traffic so they can drive faster. Half of the country is not willing to pay for it, though.
I said most, not all, assuming at least major cities had public transportation, but I did indeed not know how bad it truly was. I grew up using a bicycle to go anywhere, then a bus, then a train, never a car.
LOL!
Even sparsely populated areas usually have electricity. If your house is connected to the grid, you can charge your car at home and wake up every morning with a “full tank”. DC fast charging stations are really only needed for long road trips.
I’m not NoCars than anything but I gotta agree thats definitely the dumbest reason people hate on EVs, like imagine being so used to the idea of gas stations you can’t even imagine a world without
How do you charge at home? Do you get a long extension coord and keep your door open at night? Aren’t you making the assumption that every house has an outdoor socket or even a parking spot? I sure have neither. If you live in an apartment, does your landlord offer charging at the parking?