The comments section is ultimate drama. 😹😹
Just fyi. You have cookiejarobserver@burggit.moe in this thread using his alt @CJOtheReal@lemmy.sdf.org here. He is moderator on known pedo and Loli instance burgitt.moe and he has been very angry at us at Lemmy World for calling him out.
He now pretends that it is not his account even though CJO obviously stands for CookieJarObserver, he also speaks German and he is defending the person that is ‘totally not him’.
Pretty sure he is using at least one other account here to play stupid - Amillionnames. This user popped up around the same time CJO had his accounts banned and is always in the same threads. And now they are having conversations pretending they are not the same person.
Yes I am all over this thread with my alt (because I could not talk to him from my LW account since he is banned) but it all just clicked. He was in every thread that mentions LW talking shit with his alts which made me wonder why he would not give his main account so this could be reviewed.
Now we know.
https://burggit.moe/u/cookiejarobserver
Bye
Just to clarify, I created this account at the same time I became aware of https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/554307/Just-wanted-a-warning-Lemmy-World-is-perhaps-worse-than-reddit to avoid risks with my main when making this thread http://web.archive.org/web/20231107221038/https://sh.itjust.works/comment/4632925 . I have already explained why in several threads, but this is the first time he’s brought up these accusations directly while evading my concerns regarding the original OP I was alluding to.
This is the first time Antik is accusing me of being this user, but he has also accused me of being someone else here: http://web.archive.org/web/20231107174821/https://sh.itjust.works/comment/5160618 Apparently it is easier to suggest I’m someone else there and now someone entirely different here without providing any evidence than to answer the reply I left hanging in the thread I’ve linked.
It must be nice to be able to make accusations without having to provide or worry about archiving evidence.
Apparently they just decided to ban me without proof regardless.
admin Banned @AMillionNames@sh.itjust.works reason: CJO Alt.
Fortunately, because I was not an account on lemmy.world, no comment has really been affected, just their visibility.
I can’t speak for accusations I’m not aware off, but the only reason I’m here is because I was following lemmy.world admin’s comment history, saw one of them trolling this thread with emoticons, and decided to participate in it by doing what they should have had the competence to do, linking to their own explanation elsewhere. After becoming acquainted with the thread, I also added my two cents about my own experiences with abusive mods, which the comments on this thread are becoming a very good example of, and then I became aware of the flame wars the lem.ee antik account was engaging with.
Thank you, Antik, for confirming what https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/554307/Just-wanted-a-warning-Lemmy-World-is-perhaps-worse-than-reddit (if it’s not working, here’s the archive ) made me suspect. Sane admins don’t go around the thread linking to pedo lemmy instances, they don’t get engaged in flame wars, they get in contact with admins and moderators and resolve the problems professionally and with the responsibility that they power they’ve decided to adopt requires.
Antik and the aptly self-professed clueless_stoner have behaved exactly like the abusive power mods I complained about.
They aren’t kids, one of them is at least a grown man in their 40s with an extensive web development career, not that the world isn’t full of examples where this clearly isn’t enough for maturity or ethics. Even when they are acting completely different, even when they seem completely nice, even when they are completely agreeing with you about abusive mod practices, it won’t matter when they decide they don’t like you and the paranoia kicks in.
They live in a narcissistic world were they are completely unable of doing wrong so any suspicion is right. Antik made his accusations 10 hours before he decided to ban me, yet still delayed that much, and he already knew of me around ~20 days ago and had responded several times, before this thread with a different excuse. I can’t do anything more than link to archives, it’s not like I can pull non-existing server logs. Their claims do not have evidence, and don’t expect them to be transparent about it. After all, this was too much for them to accept as criticism.
If there ever comes a time when you decide to criticize the lemmy.world administration, don’t be surprised if this ends up being you. I don’t know if it’s the drugs they are on or what, but all it takes is a bullshit accusation, a paranoid suspicion of coincidences that they themselves create. I don’t even know if they are doing this consciously, but at this point, they must be at some level.
I don’t envy the jobs of admins and mods, but acting like a shithead will make people follow you just as people who violate the rules. That has always been the problem with protests, even small ones, but that does not mean it’s the same bad actor organizing it. My best advice is not to act like a shithead, and fortunately, most lemmy admins aren’t. Unfortunately, lemmy.world admins, those of the most populated lemmy instance, are.
Oh, and let’s not forget the claims directly from the horse’s mouth, Izzy, who was a moderator who worked with the admin team. I wasn’t too sure about their claims because of their severity, but now they make all the sense in the world:
You follow a lot of pedos 🙃
I don’t give my main because i don’t need to do anything you demand. Imagine being a power tripping reddit mod like you
Wait… doesn’t it say they refederated?
It looks like an update to a post titled when defederation happened before?
Oh My bad. I just learned about it now. I think I will just delete the post.
Maybe just edit your title to be accurate?
Okay Ill do that
Seconding a title edit, something like [Refederated] Lemmy.world …
okay ill use this
Removed by mod
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Lemmy.world admins responded here: https://lemmy.world/comment/5129840
This is one of the biggest issues with having a large part of the user-base end up on the same instance(s).
I do fear that the Fediverse, since this problem happens on all of the federated services I’ve seen, is one day going to end up just like Reddit/Twitter/etc. Maybe not in the exact same fashion (hopefully), but similar in many ways.
Which is not to say that I don’t appreciate the people behind these communities for all that they contribute, don’t get me wrong. But we’re eclipsing a precipice that is going to be difficult to come back from.
It’s a tough problem, and honestly I don’t know what the solution is. It’s not as simple as “don’t have big instances”, but the current situation isn’t really ideal either.
And thus the Lemmy.world shitshow continues…
I’m out of the loop, what’s going on with .world?
Admins having a power trip on spez level constantly, making their instance into a walled garden, like reddit, being antisemitic and harass other instances admins.
They believe they own lemmy now because they got lucky and be labeled the “default instance” by most apps and got pushed by many.
They are just as insane as Lemmyml admins.
They damage lemmy as a whole, willingly, with this behavior.
why do they participate in the fediverse if they’re going to make their instance like a corporate platform
Circle Jerk?
Edit: this guy is moderator on an actual pedo and Loli instance.
I asked you what it is, because you believe to know. And a secondary account has the point of not being associated with a main…
Im not giving you like 20 account names. Don’t worry none of them are on your shithole instance or are active there.
Edit: found him.
All 20 have because they are all mine. Fuck off.
you are so much full of shit lol
Ok, but i actually don’t ask for your opinion… So get lost. Ok?
i actually don’t ask for your opinion
By posting on a community that anyone can reply to you on, you kinda did ask for other people to respond to you…
The user is cookiejarobserver@burggit.moe moderator on a pedo instance
Yes but if you just insult others and don’t bring anything meaningful you can also just be quiet and not bother people…
You don’t get to police how folks respond to you…
If you didn’t want to be “bothered” and can’t handle criticism, you shouldn’t have posted something on the internet.
Just have a look at this user’s history if you want to know why he got banned. Basically calling us antisemites and what not. His entire history is full of LW shit-talking on his new account. He even admitted “I have a personal problem with these assholes” without actually revealing his main account.
https://lemmy.world/u/CJOtheReal@lemmy.sdf.org
Edit: his main account is cookiejarobserver@burgitt.moe and he is a mod on a pedo instance
Removed by mod
Following? You think I don’t get notified when you are calling us names or insulting us?
What’s your main account let’s see what happened
Removed by mod
At least I’m not a moderator on a pedo instance.
People who think I am joking, look up cookiejarobserver@burggit.moe thanks
You’re not a moderator you just prefer to lurk on the pedo content. Is that it?
Ok but where did you pull the bs from that Im that guy?
Also lmao the guy just posts normal hentai and nothing “pedo” related, and seeing the pinned comment on that instance they absolutely don’t allow anything involving real children or even children looking…
You guy are just insane and a idiot.
“the guy” it’s you. You both even speak german
They defederated from us over the same pretense, but there is no loli or csam to be found here and there never was.
Just some anime girls which was enough for a full defed.
And people keep saying that it doesn’t matter that the admins of the largest subs are insane people. It’s very clear that they intend to use their influence to shape the fediverse and create walled gardens around anything from political ideology to inane biases.
It’s critically important to call them out on this shit. It doesn’t do much, but it’s better than doing nothing.
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