Edit: If I posted this on Reddit, I’d prolly get 10 bajillion downvotes from cappies and anarkiddies
Hell yeah, I’m pro-democracy.
That’s why I support the CPC.
These pictures are an important part of human history, and deserve more exposure.
Absolutely NSFL (shows the infamous tank tracks running people over): https://www.aboluowang.com/2008/0529/89034.html
More from Vietnamese media: https://www.dkn.tv/the-gioi/the-gioi-do-day/nhung-buc-anh-noi-tieng-di-vao-lich-su-dau-thuong-cua-nhan-loai.html
“deserves more exposure”, says he as he easily finds dozens of links all repeating the same story and showing hundreds of pictures.
At least have some intellectual honesty and show the pictures of the soldiers being hung from buses, shot with weapons, or burned alive. If you weren’t aware of them then you are actually not aware at all of the protests and have no idea what went down. If you were aware and decided not to show them you are intellectually dishonest.
By the time the army was deployed, most people had cleared the square – the “massacre” didn’t even happen in the square itself. What remained was CIA funded protestors who had been riling people up to take up weapons and fight. Oh, and then they left the square before the army got in but told people to stay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5__ESiklA1A. This was an attempted coup. The more moderate elements of the protests had long left by that time, after they realised what they had gotten themselves into. By then the protest had been going on for about two weeks. Soldiers started going into the square without weapons to clear it out of what remained, and they were attacked. Some were killed. So then they came back with weapons (at the time China did not have riot gear), started firing warning shots in the air (which is not good practice because the bullet has to fall down again, but at the time it was customary), and started clearing the square. The famous picture of “tank man” shows the tanks leaving the square and going home, and this guy is just preventing them from leaving. In the video he also climbs onto the tank and just chats with the soldiers, then goes on his way.
And all those pictures you link, what do they show? Can you confirm with certainty that they all show peaceful, innocent protestors killed or wounded by PLA soldiers in June 1989 in or around Tiananmen Square? Or do they just look grisly af and that’s a good enough argument? I guess since you think these protests were an “important part of human history” the shock factor is enough to make your point and sweep uncomfortable questions under the rug. Just look at the dead people! How could China do this! Well,
https://i.imgur.com/yPURrKh.jpeg That’s a PLA soldier. Only PLA soldiers were burnt.
https://i.imgur.com/KSto5ug.jpeg That is, obviously, a PLA vehicle. Burnt by the protesters with the crew still inside.
https://i.imgur.com/OGqCgVx.jpeg Also a PLA soldier. These three are from the imgur album.
https://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/news-photo/beijing-china-a-wounded-soldier-of-the-chinese-army-is-news-photo/sb10069437l-001. From your getty link. This is a PLA soldier. Why would he be rescued by the people he’s been sent to kill, if we believe your narrative?
Why aren’t your links showing pictures like these? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ETYFwMIUEAIJe-F?format=jpg&name=900x900 (safe pic) - where do you think they got those weapons? Or this https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ETYFwWuVAAAZpwf?format=jpg&name=medium (nsfl), which is also a soldier that was hanged from a bus and then burned.
Then you link Vietnamese media at the end and I’m not sure exactly why (why is it important to point out it’s Vietnamese I mean). It’s also saying “image not available” on every picture, so I have to believe you have these links saved somewhere and just send them any time someone brings up this topic without checking them. Maybe because Vietnam is socialist, and therefore it’s an appeal to authority because why would socialists expose other socialists? They wouldn’t, which implies China isn’t socialist. But both countries are, it’s just Vietnam and China have an unamiable relationship due to the border war (which was objectively wrong from China) – although they are getting warmer again, slowly. Follow-up questions: why are all socialists worldwide responsible for what Vietnamese newspapers decide to publish? Follow-up question: if the UK chastises Canada for genocide against their native populations, does that suddenly make one of the two country not actually capitalist?
Considering though that you’ve been spamming this comment on various threads, I think we can safely assume which of the two scenarios is playing out.
Source (CNN, surprisingly) for Tankman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeFzeNAHEhU
He stands in front of the Type 96 (or at least it looks like a T96, I could be wrong tho). The driver stops the vehicle with room to spare. The man climbs onto the tank body, then onto the turret. The commander turns out, and chats with the man. He then gets up and leaves, meanwhile the loader turns out, and waves at him. He turns back and continues to block the way of the tank. CNN cuts out after that, but I’ve been told he stood there for a few more minutes, then walked away and no one got hurt.
If the PLA was really there to kill citizens indiscriminately, they wouldn’t have stopped. They wouldn’t have opened their hatches, giving him access to the inside of the tank. They wouldn’t have chatted with him. They wouldn’t have waited for him. They’d have either just ran him over, or opened fire with the coaxial gun. Or, alternatively, the Commander would have opened the hatch to shoot him with his pistol.
Liberals say a lot of stupid things. Post incidences here.