• @Bonesince1997
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    1358 months ago

    Gonna be a bunch of women in prison for this. That’s wild.

    • @Chriszz@lemmy.world
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      1218 months ago

      It is absolutely bizarre to me, that we as a society will be taking away the freedom of select women and locking them away with actual criminals simply because they chose to act on their right to bodily autonomy.

        • @Jeredin@lemm.ee
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          248 months ago

          They never even take the time to consider the needs of the women within their own “tribe.”  They are simply brainwashed.

        • @MataVatnik@lemmy.world
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          108 months ago

          This, we like to talk about men making decisions on women’s reproductive rights. But if it wasn’t wasn’t for women this wouldn’t have passed.

          • @asteriskeverything@lemmy.world
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            58 months ago

            If I wasn’t for men it wouldn’t have even been introduced or gained this momentum. If it wasn’t for misogyny this wouldn’t have passed.

            • @MataVatnik@lemmy.world
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              38 months ago

              While there is a place for it, my issue with saying misogyny in this context is that it’s a vague, loaded and nebulous term that people project their own meanings to and detracts from the nuances of the reasons that lead women to support anti abortion legislation in the first place. I don’t think the sociological forces can simply be explained away by saying its misogyny, there are women that sincerely believe abortions are unethical.

              • @AnalogyAddict@lemmy.world
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                38 months ago

                It’s not the belief that abortions are unethical that is misogynistic. It’s the belief that your ethics on abortion give you the right to take away another person’s right to make decisions about their body based on THEIR ethics, because they are women.

                Don’t believe me? Imagine a law that forces every healthy person to donate blood. Why does that sound ridiculous when the risks of blood donation are far less, and the number of lives it could save far higher? Or donating a kidney, which carries similar risk-per-life?

                The answer: because it wouldn’t only be women affected.

                • @MataVatnik@lemmy.world
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                  08 months ago

                  You can weave together theory all day, the fact is that the average voters won’t even care to understand. Much less if you go up to women who support anti abortion legislation and start calling them misogynist, they look at the world through a completely different lense, and they will not take anything you have to say seriously.

        • @HyonoKo
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          78 months ago

          Why, why, why…

        • @GreenMario@lemm.ee
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          08 months ago

          These women should not be allowed to do anything but pop out kids, fuck, make food and watch their damn mouth.

          I do not suffer a woman to speak - some Bible verse.

          We really should be cyber bullying these removed nonstop just saying.

      • @ScoobyDoo27@lemm.ee
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        168 months ago

        Just like the war on drugs. We locked up so many people for smoking a joint or having a speck of cocaine on them. As if these are the people who are a danger to society (most of the time).

        • Maeve
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          18 months ago

          And Congress critters enjoy all the drugs they want while also playing underage females with them (Gaetz).

        • @helixdaunting@lemm.ee
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          18 months ago

          That’s not 100% accurate. Some of them aren’t rich, several of them aren’t old, and a few of them aren’t white.

    • Buelldozer
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      118 months ago

      The girl was 7 months pregnant at the time of abortion and they burned the body. This isn’t normal at all.

  • @xkforce@lemmy.world
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    678 months ago

    It seemed like society was slowly but surely moving forward overall then 2016 happened and everything went to shit. Just like everyone paying even a tiny amount of attention knew it would. Fuck this is sad.

      • TWeaK
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        18 months ago

        For me it started in 2001. The 90s were pretty rad.

        • @SpookyUnderwear@eviltoast.org
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          28 months ago

          The 90s were the peak of our society (thus far). We could have been a little less homophobic, but besides that, things were pretty great.

          • TWeaK
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            -18 months ago

            Yeah I mean a small part of me even misses calling things “gay”. Not because they’re actually gay or because homophobes think it’s a bad thing thus an insult, but because it described something in a way that no other term has since. You didn’t casually call something gay because it was queer, you called it gay because it was a kind of lame, goody two-shoes thing. I don’t think we should bring back calling things gay, but I do miss having a word to describe that sentiment.

        • Maeve
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          18 months ago

          It started with Nixon but Reagan had the eighties. Rad in a bad way.

  • @drdalek13
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    578 months ago

    "Celeste Burgess was released from Madison county jail earlier this month, after serving a little more than half of her 90-day sentence, local Nebraska news outlet KTIV reported. At her sentencing, Celeste Burgess said that her family could not have afforded a funeral for fetal remains, according to Courthouse News. (In a financial affidavit obtained by Vice, Jessica Burgess said she had $400 to her name.) Celeste Burgess also reportedly deals with multiple mental health issues and became pregnant due to an abusive relationship.

    Jessica Burgess was set to undergo a court-ordered psychological evaluation ahead of her sentencing. But the evaluation was canceled due to lack of funding, according to KTIV."

    “Lack of Funding” is something I read far too often for this economy.

    Wealth hoarding is going to cast the rest of us into abject poverty, and we can’t really do anything about it. We live in a dystopian political drama, and it fucking BLOWS

    • @Zaktor@sopuli.xyz
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      318 months ago

      They can skip psychological evaluations ordered by a court to ensure justice is done because the state doesn’t have enough money, but if you’re a poor woman who can’t afford a funeral for something that was never a person, get fucked and go to prison.

  • TWeaK
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    358 months ago

    Court documents in the case revealed that Facebook’s parent company Meta supplied police with the private Facebook messages that Celeste and Jessica Burgess had sent one another.

    She’s in prison because Meta read their messages.

  • @RaoulDook@lemmy.world
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    308 months ago

    People should crowdfund an escape plan for that lady and deliver justice by keeping her free. Fuck the law if it’s wrong.

  • AutoTL;DRB
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    148 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Jessica Burgess, a Nebraska mother accused of helping her teenage daughter use pills to end her pregnancy, was sentenced on Friday to two years in prison.

    According to prosecutors, after the pair bought pills to end the pregnancy, Celeste Burgess gave birth to a stillborn fetus.

    Jessica Burgess pleaded guilty in July to charges of false reporting, providing an abortion after 20 weeks of gestation, and concealing, removing or abandoning a dead human body.

    Although the case occurred before the US supreme court overturned Roe v Wade, it has been seen as a harbinger of how law enforcement may prosecute people for ending their own pregnancies in a post-Roe era – and how giant tech companies could go along with it.

    Celeste Burgess was released from Madison county jail earlier this month, after serving a little more than half of her 90-day sentence, local Nebraska news outlet KTIV reported.

    Celeste Burgess also reportedly deals with multiple mental health issues and became pregnant due to an abusive relationship.


    The original article contains 474 words, the summary contains 167 words. Saved 65%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

  • @waow@lemm.ee
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    Well after 20 weeks. Well after five months. Is it still a “clump of cells” at 20 weeks?

    These two women would likely be in prison anywhere in Europe which tends to have shorter term limits on abortion.

    Also lol at ending the article by decrying the fact Nebraska now imposes a 12 week ban. The same as that famous anti-woman regressive Gilead-esque shithole Germany.

    • Silverseren
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      378 months ago

      If it is inside of a woman’s body and reliant on her to be alive, then it has nothing to do with anyone else. It’s a parasite she can decide to excise from her body.

      You can’t force someone to give blood or an organ to another person, why are you allowed to force a woman to keep something inside her body?

    • Chetzemoka
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      68 months ago

      These two women would have been able to access abortion services much earlier in the pregnancy, if they were in Europe instead of Oklahoma. This case is the kind of thing that restricting access to legal abortion early in pregnancies causes. This is the fault of the Oklahoma abortion bans

    • @pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz
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      It literally doesn’t matter, women have the right to end a pregnancy no matter what part of the process they’re at.

      Women do not owe you babies. Women’s rights are more important than fetuses’ rights.

    • @ScoobyDoo27@lemm.ee
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      It is way more than a clump of cells at 20 weeks. 20 weeks is when you do the huge ultrasound to make sure everything is developing how it should. My wife and I did a 20 week ultrasound for our first kid back in July and it looks just like a baby; you can see fingers, toes, facial structure, etc. The baby is kicking and rolling around through the whole thing.

      It’s funny you get downvoted because you are right. Anyone who has a kid or knows how babies develop would never want abortions allowed at 20 weeks except in certain circumstances. Europe has a 12 week ban for a reason. Europe is only progressive here when it fits their narrative.

    • sadreality
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      This shiti article gets reposted to rile up people but people actually read it and see the facts, they realize that click bait title is hardly supported by the facts.

      Didn’t they also dispose of the remains in some unsavory way?

      • @waow@lemm.ee
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        -248 months ago

        The abortion debate in the US is psychotic. On one end you have prolifers that want to ban Plan B and some would definitely like to ban contraceptives too.

        On the other end you have rabid prochoicers who support the idea that abortion should be an elective procedure with (almost) no limits.

        Whereas, in most of Europe, we seem to have figured it out. Set a sensible limit somewhere around 12-14 weeks, allow a lot exceptions when the mother’s health in threatened or for cases of rape and incest, and that’s it. It works.

        But, something else is at play here, which is that many extreme feminists don’t want any kind of equality but power. The demand to be able to terminate a pregnancy with no limits is a demand to be solely in control of human reproduction.

        • Chetzemoka
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          Oh fuck you, stop lying. The vast majority of Americans agree on reasonable abortion restrictions.

          “When asked about the legality of abortion at different stages of pregnancy, about two-thirds of Americans say it should be legal in the first trimester (69%), while support drops to 37% for the second trimester and 22% for the third. Majorities oppose abortion being legal in the second (55%) and third (70%) trimesters.”

          https://news.gallup.com/poll/321143/americans-stand-abortion.aspx

          • interolivary
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            48 months ago

            No but but but both sides are equally bad, and what about them eXtReMe FeMiNiStS??!!??!!¿¿

        • @Zaktor@sopuli.xyz
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          38 months ago

          Whereas, in most of Europe, we seem to have figured it out. Set a sensible limit somewhere around 12-14 weeks, allow a lot exceptions when the mother’s health in threatened or for cases of rape and incest, and that’s it. It works.

          Like hell it does. Women in Europe do not have bodily autonomy. You don’t need a special justification to decide what happens to your own body.

        • Maeve
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          18 months ago

          I didn’t even know I was pregnant until 12 weeks or more.

        • @Sooperstition@lemmy.one
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          18 months ago

          Chomping at the bit for a both sides false equivalency? Interesting that you’d find it when the basic rights of a whole class of people are on the line.

  • @Risus_Nex@lemmy.world
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    -458 months ago

    My mind read “monster” instead of “mother”. So I was surprised to find that the monster in this story is the mother, not.

      • ZILtoid1991
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        428 months ago

        The monsters are:

        • the police
        • the judge
        • the legal system making this possible
        • facebook
          • ZILtoid1991
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            08 months ago

            If I get a PM on Twitter with more serious stuff, I immediately send Discord ans Signal links instead. I don’t want to risk any Elongated Muskrat moments…