How does it compare in terms of ressource usage and pollution versus importing plants or growing locally ?

@k_o_t
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that electricity bill tho

@AgreeableLandscape
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At least it’s wind powered.

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As this is not somewhere far off where there is surplus wind energy due to transport issues (which would defeat the purpose of this indoor farm), this is pure greenwashing, as the used wind-energy would otherwise be used by other consumers that are now likely reverting to non-renewables. Something like that only makes sense if nearly 100% of the electricity in that area is produced carbon free.

But this does save transport costs and food-waste. And likely has a positive effect on soil-depletion and water pollution etc. so it is not all bad.

@AgreeableLandscape
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While marketing most likely has an uncomfortably large part in them boasting that it’s wind powered, Denmark does seem to be making significant strides toward renewable energy, so it could be that they’re simply preparing for the day that the country bans fossil fuels entirely by making new developments independent of them.

@k_o_t
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also the savings in water and soil might be offset to an undetermined degree by how the nutrients for the hydroponics are sourced (pretty sure they import them from some other country…)

@AgreeableLandscape
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Funny thing, our environmental sciences class recently got into a little unplanned debate about the practical and ethical implications of animal-based fertilizer like aquaponics and manure. People were arguing that the plants grown from those processes would technically not be vegan, but a major counterpoint was that the only alternative would either be artificial fertilizers which are also very environmentally problematic, or letting land fallow for decades, which wouldn’t produce enough food for the current human population.

poVoq
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Well there is also Humanure… (sourced form waste-water or dry toilets for example), but I guess that would not be vegan as well?

@AgreeableLandscape
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I feel like most vegans would agree that human products are generally exempt from veganism because humans can consent to these products being used, so as long as you respect their right to consent or refuse then there’s no problem. Maybe @k_o_t@lemmy.ml can elaborate.

@k_o_t
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well, a star had to die at some point for us, so i guess there’s no point :/

@AgreeableLandscape
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Not sure what you mean. Can you elaborate?

@k_o_t
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i guess i meant to say that being vegan is a continuous function, non-binary so to speak, and perhaps unless we all agree on a very strict definition of the word vegan it’s just a matter of your inner moral compass

poVoq
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So consensual cannibalism is vegan TIL :D

@AgreeableLandscape
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I mean, there’s a limit.

@k_o_t
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reminds me of this video :)

@k_o_t
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@k_o_t
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you can’t really use it with hydroponics, which is the kinda of the main feature of these vertical farms

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At least struvite (a fertilizer obtained from urine) can be likely used with hydroponics. Edt: link .

@k_o_t
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interesting, never heard of it 🧐

but again, many issues as pointed out in the article

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