@uhoh
52M

I think a lot of people forget that proprietary software has the incentive to be addictive

Dessalines
admin
32M

It’d be worth it to brainstorm on ways we can make lemmy not addictive. Unfortunately the live-updates thing probably fights against that :(

They say putting a phone into black and white mode can make it a lot less addictive because it’s no longer as flashy, which is part of what triggers dopamine response. Maybe we can apply a similar concept to Lemmy with a mode that gets rid of images and makes the UI less sleek?

We could make it an option. Not just for potentially making it less addicting, but sometimes live updates are distracting when trying to read a thread.

@mukt
12M

Need vs want.

  • What is the need for live updates?
  • At what frequency does one need to be updated?

IMHO the live updates are a bad choice.

There should be notifications for new private messages/new answers, but not for new posts.

I think it’s mostly annoying and that it’s a pattern that could be used to make stuff more addictive (like most of facebook’s useless notifications).

@Echedenyan
22M

I have felt stressed in the Fedi a lot too. I finished taking a big break from the common Fedi network and limit my communications to this plataform and Matrix for personal use only.

As the Fediverse grows it will become more like other big social media. At least it is an open protocol and the smart people working on the code can figure out how to filter the useless stuff.

The main thing I fear is that the fedi mimics a lot the existing social networks instead of bringing its own revamped model. As such a lot of the same pitfalls that make proprietary social networks addictive end up in the fediverse.

Hopefully, they will naturally diverge in the long term, and implement significant improvements to the models that can make social networks friendlier.

I do realize that creating a new model of social networks that are not addictive is clearly not easy, and I don’t blame any of the devs of the fediverse for what I said above. I thank them, because now we have a model that doesn’t rely on ads. Therefore, there will be no incentive to implement features that are designed to be addictive. This will be super important in the long run.

The great thing about being an open protocol is that anybody can fork a client and add any new moderation functions or change the content suggestion model. I think this is the main advantage a distributed system has to the centralised systems we see now. The user can choose what client to use and therefore how the social network data is presented to them.

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