US President Donald Trump told world business leaders on Thursday to manufacture in the United States or face tariffs, in his first major speech to global leaders since returning to the White House this week. … “Come make your product in America and we will give you among the lowest taxes of any nation on earth,” Trump said today, speaking remotely to the World Economic Forum (WEF) in Davos, Switzerland.

“But if you don’t make your product in America, which is your prerogative, then very simply you will have to pay a tariff,” he added.

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      Yup

      Make your products in the USA or force my constituents to pay inflated prices for everything.

      wait

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          • Trump’s degree is in economics.

          • A lot of people who support Trump are worried about having low-skill jobs in areas that the US is not competitive in that pay well in the US, which is hard if they have to compete with the rest of the world.

          You may come to your own conclusions.

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        Hey, there is another option. Corporations could illegally decide to absorb the cost of the labour and tank their share prices.

        I’m not quite sure which option would implode the economy faster, but it would be a neat experiment.

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        Which in turn stimulates local production, which in turn leads to economic growth…

        Seriously people, Protectionism is a tried and tested method. In the right circumstances it is a powerful tool. The question is, whether these circumstances apply in the current US, but look at all industrialized nations. They used protectionism to grow their industries and now they oppose other countries protectionism to keep them small.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protectionism

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          from your own source

          There is a broad consensus among economists that protectionism has a negative effect on economic growth and economic welfare, while free trade and the reduction of trade barriers has a positive effect on economic growth.

          A 2016 study found that “trade typically favors the poor”, as they spend a greater share of their earnings on goods, as free trade reduces the costs of goods

          So to reduce costs of goods we will make cheap items from China cost more so USA made can compete at a higher price. why doesn’t the math work here? how does this result in a better economy?

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            such a fan of the quote from source disproving the original post.

            Only superceded by the double “this you?” screenshot

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            In the right circumstances it is a powerful tool. The question is, whether these circumstances apply in the current US

            Is what i said.

            So to reduce costs of goods we will make cheap items from China cost more so USA made can compete at a higher price. why doesn’t the math work here? how does this result in a better economy?

            Because then manufacturers in the US employ people in the US, who then have more money to consume in the US. That requires the government to also work towards good wages though. Also it allows for industries to grow so they can use economics of scale to drive down their production prices and then their consumer prices.

            Again, for developing industries it can be crucial and is tried and tested. The question is whether that is what the US needs right now.

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              You don’t understand the current context then.

              Look up Bethlehem Steel. That’s the future of American production if Trump tries to use tarrifs to force local production.

              If you’re actually concerned about US production you’d lobby for subsidized labor to produce goods here. You’d lobby for stronger unions. If your lens is capitalism you need to outcompete your competition. And the current metric for that is labor costs and worker retention.

              Look up FoxConn. See how we’ve outsourced suppressed wages and the model of the company store to China.

        • It’s unlikely most manufacturers will make that investment, since they’ll have to deal with a significant upfront cost, increased running costs and likely counter-tarriffs, all for an ordeal that may well be completely undone in 2 to 4 years. In the meantime US inflation will grow again.

          Protectionism is not the main tool that helped countries industrialize, the creation of global trade and particularly deficit spending are to be credited for that. Protectionism is, particularly in the modern age, next to useless.

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      I mean, he just threatened them on Russia despite our trade being nearly nonexistent with Russia for the past three years. So yeah.

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    There aren’t even natural reserves for every mineral/gas/etc in the US. A lot of the more advanced ones go into making computer chips, let alone their coveted Stargate AI chips. Setting up manufacturing/processing sites for each one based on imported raw materials isn’t a sudden feasible 4 year project either (yes yes I know assuming 4 years is all this crap lasts)

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    So where are those factories gonna come from, and whose gonna work in them? He’s also saying he’s going to get rid of all the immigrants and we only have so many people being released from prison that are willing to do non-union factory work.

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    I’d rather we make our own products and stop trading with the US altogether.

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      Agreed. Also from the US perspective. Global trade should be for bespoke high-quality regional goods, not commodities. There is basically nothing from China that the US gets that should be made in China and shipped to the US.

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    "and we will give you among the lowest taxes of any nation on earth,”

    Ummm, I’m pretty sure most manufacturers care way more about wages than taxes. Taxes are important in white collar businesses or between areas with similar wages. But the wages of a US factory worker are much higher than a worker in China. They are likely higher than in EU, too, though maybe not by as much.

    Is the plan to bring low-wage jobs to the US? Or is the plan to pay higher wages for the same job and pass the cost to the consumer? Or is the plan to add tariffs that get passed on to the consumer? Because I’m not really seeing how this helps anyone.

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      They probably eventually plan to bring back forced labour. They ‘deport’ people, and when that’s too arduous, they’ll round them up in camps and make them work their ‘sentence’.

      I don’t think they actually stupid enough to deport their low wage vulnerable workforce when they can just further exploit them.

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        Now with all the private prison people he has in his cabinet this is making more sense. The one thing that they will have an abundance of is prisoners people being falsely imprisoned for bullshit charges. What better way to use them than to get some free labor

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    So if we get to a point where tarrifs eventually lead to products being made domestically, anf this reduces global shipping, does Trump understand that will be a low carbon policy?

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      Yes, he said that as one of his major points on his Rogan interview, granted he said that while mocking Biden’s climate policies.

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      I hope that’s the result. Unfortunately, here in Canada there are companies looking at doing some manufacturing in the US (i.e. sending incomplete parts for finishing).

      *edited for grammar error

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    I’m also going to ask Saudi Arabia and Opec to bring down the cost of oil

    We don’t deserve our outrageous amounts of wealth and oil, i hope one day it will dry up and just convince people that living under an autocratic monarchy isn’t so great (who would’ve thought??? 🤯)

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    Meanwhile, this orange traitor fucktard shut down the entire fucking NIH. What the fuck do any of his enablers think is going to happen to all of pharma and all of biomedical research? How the hell can we make drugs without clinical trials? Where are the drugs going to be made?

    It could not be more obvious that he is working to destroy the United States at the behest of foreign adversaries.

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    Trump is tired of the US getting ripped off… everyone, and I mean EVERYONE uses the US for money…yet, most of ya’ll would rather see your own country burn than support his “America first” motto…

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    Is this all a bid to ramp up the price of his Trump Coin?

    Btw…Rev. 13:16-17