Can you notice that it’s a bit leaning to the right?

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    American in Italy here! I am not justifying this, just explaining it from an Italian perspective. First, the paper is not mixing up her Indian heritage here with Native American. They took the idea that she is seeking a white male VP running mate and wrote “hunting for a white man”, which conjured up a “funny” homage to native Americans in spaghetti westerns, while giving a nod and a wink to the racism inherent in making the VP pick race-based. Second, this paper is a sensationalist rag sold in grocery store checkout lanes, with no expectation for the stories to be good, or free of any number of unsavory isms.

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      native Americans in spaghetti westerns.

      I’m not sure how it is in Italy, but a lot of the older Italians I know absolutely love old westerns (of… Varying quality)

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          Yep. They also created giant groups of people who think the saguaro cactus grows in Texas.

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              Yeah, the American West has a huge variety of very distinct biomes. For the purpose of telling a story though, one rocky desert or forested mountain vale or whatever is as good as another, leaving us, the audience, largely unaware and misled. We mostly only notice when they do that to areas we’re familiar with.

              Reminds me of the movie The Patriot, starring Mel Gibson. There’s a scene where he is at his home in what is clearly the upcountry of South Carolina not too far from the Appalachians and he takes a walk down his garden path to visit his wife’s grave, which is located in the South Carolina lowcountry, by the coast, somehow skipping past over a hundred miles of pine forest that would have been between those areas. If you’re not familiar with those areas, they both just look like areas in the American Southeast, but if you are familiar, it’s very jarring.

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                I had a similar experience with the TV show, Broadchurch.

                I lived in one of the towns where it was filmed. The church, two of the main characters’ houses, the newspaper office, the high street, and the mechanic garage in the second season were all filmed in Clevedon, near Bristol. I lived about 100m from the church while they were filming it.

                Watching the show, they’d walk down a familiar road, turn a corner, and suddenly they’d be on a beach in Dorset, 70 miles away. It was always jarring.

                Great show though.

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                  For me as an Italian it was quantum of solace. He’s fleeing from police in west Liguria, then somehow he makes a turn, loses them and he’s in Siena - a bit unlikely that with a flashy and broken car like that he would have been unnoticed by police as it’s at least 5 hours of toll highway or 12 hours of local roads. (And the European police cars were doing American police sounds, ultra weird)

                  Completely ruined the immersion for me, that’s the only part that I remember of the movie

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                I watched some Gal Gadot movie recently, where she got on a motorbike in the far north of Iceland (Isafjordur airport) and rode to Reykjavik opera house in a matter of minutes. I’d consider both of these places to be somewhat landmarks as well.

                But it didn’t ruin it for me because it was terrible long before that. Arguably at the script and casting stages.

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                  Oh that’s super broken on my app. I’ll make sure to switch to the website if I want to do spoilers in the future.

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        Westerns are generally quite liked by the older generation. Leone’s masterpieces are definitely cult movies that most people have watched.

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      Second, this paper is a sensationalist rag sold in grocery store checkout lanes,

      ah, that explains it.

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      Yes, this about covers it (correctly).

      And it is pointing at racism (it’s no secret the “had” to get a white male of certain age).

      Also I think the Indian part was used just because of that additional funny coincidence. It’s not not funny, but far from good. … tho thinking about it now - using the same joke by having Adolfy depicted as Crocodile Dundee, while still not lol funny, does seem kinda funny.

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    To be fair the Italians have a 500+ year history of mixing up Indigenous Americans and Indians.

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    Italian here, they probably did it on purpose so that people would repost it and they succeeded.

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    It’s even worse if you consider that it’s still offensive to Photoshop that on her even if she was Native American.

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      I prefer Italian women, but you know … when on a road leading to Rome (but walking in the opposite direction for obvious reasons), one has to keep an open mind.

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    Well, at least it’s casual racism, not professional racism.
    Oh, it’s a newspaper, so a bit professional I guess, but like they didn’t use their “best” racists.

    /s

    Also who are the white folk they are referring to?
    The other dude in the race is clearly orange (of some rapey citrus heritage). And the “catching” part, well, statistically speaking as DA she prob didn’t do that much of that color either.

    Everything around this is multilevel horribly resist, and yet the reality is several parallel universes ahead.

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      The “hunt” for the white man refers to her search for a white guy as a vice-president that can appeal to the “wasp” population. It’s a reference to western movies. The article is fully on her search for a vice-president and the “real” motivations for her choice.

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    As a European I will admit I have no idea what’s “wrong” with the picture. Other than it just looking like a mouthpiece for people instead of actually reporting things

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      Someone, somewhere has evidently misinterpreted the fact that US presidential candidate Kamala Harris (pictured center) is of Indian ancestry - as in her family is from the country in south Asia - and instead photoshopped her into the stereotypical Native American “Indian” aesthetic. Why they have chosen to do this eludes me.

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        Ohh! As a European I do know the difference between those two types. It just didn’t click that they got it wrong, I thought they had the feathers wrong (like part of the wrong native American tribe or something)

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        because they don’t actually know WHAT Indian she is, didn’t bother to look into it, and assumed it to be the American one

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          because they don’t actually know WHAT Indian she is, didn’t bother to look into it

          Do you really believe this lol

          jfc

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        No it’s not that. Another comment explains it above, and it has to do with Western movies. Il tempo is usually just recommended to clean windows, but it’s not what you (or OP) suggests.

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      She’s not Native American. Adding random head pieces to Native Americans is reductive and historically used to discount their opinion.

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    You don’t even need to guess it based on whatever USA they posted at the centre. Just look at Giorgia Merdoni at the left.

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      Man you know saying that shit is inflammatory but I still don’t get why people get butthurt over somebody mentioning it than Liz doing it.

      Telling about US political climate.

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    You’re offended that a foreign xenophobic tabloid did not accurately depict her indian heritage in a goddamn caricature? Come on man, live and let live.