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  • olosta@lemmy.worldEnglish
    72·
    5 months ago

    “Gamers Nexus, on the other hand, thinks the issue is more deep rooted and originates from a foundry-level fault.”

    • The GN piece makes it very clear that this claim is not definitely true but is a line of inquiry.
    • Intel statement does not definitely exclude this hypothesis, the flawed CPU might need the lower voltage to work around the flaw.
    • The obvious question this article does not address is what will be the performance hit for the patched parts?

    That’s a bit annoying to see GN so grossly misquoted when Steve spends half the run time of the video explaining that they are not sure of anything at this point.

  • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
    45·
    5 months ago

    “We’re going to undervolt them. You’re stuck with the damage done, and you won’t have luck overclocking or getting as much performance from our chips.”

    • ditty@lemm.eeEnglish
      3·
      5 months ago

      Not only that, but I don’t think stability issues like this would’ve been known around or shortly after launch, so Intel (likely unknowingly) got to mislead consumers and reviewers into thinking that their 13th/14th HEDT processors were close to competitive with AMD’s, when they were anything but. It’s never been more apparent how stagnant Intel truly has become, and that’s already been a trope for years.

  • cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
    37·
    5 months ago

    Nice one Intel. My next computer certainly will not contain an Intel CPU.

    I wish someone would start making desktop motherboards with socketed RISC-V and ARM CPUs.

    • CaptDust@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      11·
      5 months ago

      risc v wouldn’t be worth much right now but snapdragon I could see getting socketed at some point.

        • Tarball@lemmy.worldEnglish
          4·
          5 months ago

          Up to 128 cores. Not meant for gaming, but it cranks at server tasks, compiling & coding tasks, etc.

          There’s a windows dev kit (ARM) that I think is 3ghz: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/d/windows-dev-kit-2023

          But bleeding edge stuff from MS means likely driver issues, and this isn’t something you’ll throw a dedicated graphics card in.

          Still, feels like the tide is changing away from Intel. I too was looking at “ARM for Desktop” options a couple weeks back.

          • aard@kyu.deEnglish
            2·
            5 months ago

            I have a 96 core one. While it’ll be fine as a desktop for compiling I’d stick with an AMD system.

            The devkit has 6 memory channels, and you’ll want to fill them all - there’s a surprisingly high performance penalty if you don’t. Even then, compiling a code base which could be spread over hundreds of cores is still significantly slower on the ampere compared to my old 3970x.

        • umbrellaEnglish
          1·
          5 months ago

          not to mention its a dev kit. at this point not everything will run\be problem free.

    • tal@lemmy.todayEnglish
      1·
      5 months ago

      This is actually good for Intel, if they think that they can actually fix the problem in microcode.

      • sploosh@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        5 months ago

        They can keep the problem from starting, but any processors that are already impacted need to be RMA’d

  • SeaJ@lemm.eeEnglish
    3·
    5 months ago

    Level1Tech looked a good amount into it and he’s not convinced microcode updates, which they have released many, will fix the issue.

    • floofloof@lemmy.caOPEnglish
      1·
      5 months ago

      They won’t, since Intel has quietly admitted now that there is an oxidization issue too. Microcode can’t fix that, and if it can work around it, it will do so at a significant performance cost.