• danc4498@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    The subtitle:

    White farmers filed lawsuits to block a debt forgiveness initiative, but the Biden administration is still bearing the blame.

    Is this post implying that the New York Times is creating a narrative. It sounds more like they are reporting on the fact that black Georgia farmers aren’t supporting Biden when they should.

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      “Black Farmers Should Be Supporting Biden, But they’re Not Because of RepubliQan Fuckery” is an accurate title. “Black Farmers Are Mad At Biden” is not an accurate title.

      The NYT is keenly aware of the difference. One of them creates the narrative that Biden is losing the black vote for the purpose of separating Biden from the black vote and one of them is accurate.

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        Good thing “Black Farmers Are Mad At Biden” was not even close to the title…

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              Fair enough. I have no doubt more examples are pouring out of the NYT even now.

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                I’m sure you do, but for some reason you attached yourself to a bad example.

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                  …and for NO reason, you’ve decided to take it upon yourself to defend the fucking NYT. Why?!? Are you just a Trumper, reveling in their duplicity, or are you a moron?

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    Because people are absolutely idiots. Not a race thing… Most people of all colors and creeds seem incapable of going more than surface deep on anything. I don’t know when we dropped our critical thinking skills, but I know it will be the end of us. I think this is what Generations theory sort of predicts. We stop caring about facts, logic, etc. We just drive ourselves into hardship until things are so bad that we realize these things have value . That’s my Strauss-Howe pitch of th day. Welcome to the worst part of the seculum.

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      It’s not about people being idiots, it’s about the NYT helping trump in any and every way possible.

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        Lots of 3rd parties are complicit. That’s why critical thinking and understanding conscious and unconscious bias is so important. Third parties with agenda are and always will be present. The trick is getting people to understand article by article what is biased or propaganda and how to suss it out. At least the ability to be suspicious without the need to jump to being a full on conspiracy theorist. IDK, it’s just so disappointing.

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          The trick is getting people to understand article by article what is biased or propaganda and how to suss it out.

          Absolutely. Some variation of which has been promoted for 50 years. We’re very, very, very far behind.

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      There are most likely more people now with sufficient critical skills than ever before as their existence is predicated on the opportunity for self education. The problem currently is that unbalanced aggregations of personal and corporate wealth are capable of yoking the zeitgeist to their ends so that most untethered minds are functionally insane when it comes to ‘political’ considerations. It may seem like there are less cognisant minds out there but the reality is that they are being drowned out more than ever by cynical manipulation.

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      I don’t know if the majority of folks really ever had critical thinking skills to begin with. Can you name a time that’s notable for most people being rationally critical? I sure can’t.

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      I can’t quite pin it down, but somewhere around Biden winning in 2020 and the insurrection in 2021. They must have realized that their dying medium could only survive on sensational reporting - and what better to help that than ever more Trumpian antics?

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        Carlos Slim, one of the richest men in the world, buying lots of shares in 2011 and 2015 might have something to do with it too.

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      NYT isn’t so much biased in terms of Democrats or Republicans. It’s biased in terms of what stirs up the most shit for the sake of clicks.

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      A lot of news outlets have turned into just churning drama. I’ve noticed it this election cycle with NYT and CNN.

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    Huh. Funny i remember posting something about not believing shit you read in the NYT and getting thoroughly scoured for it and yettttt

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      It takes some time for some people to come around and figure things out for themselves.

      I saw a small number of folks posting early on that Israel’s war on Gaza was a genocide and getting dragged HARD for it. I’ve lost count of how many people said I was an antisemite for being skeptical of Israel’s official news releases because “Israel was just defending itself”. Now Lemmy is majority pro-Palestine and recognizes the Palestinian genocide. Looks like a bunch of you were wrong…

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    Watching libs finally turn against the New York Crimes like

    They published a fake news story about Palestinians committing mass rape and had awful reporting on trans issues that was literally cited in transphobic laws, and they responded to criticism of that by publishing an op-ed titled “In Defense of JK Rowling.”

    They have a long history of shit like that, lying and endangering vulnerable people in the process, but the trouble is, so do a lot of news outlets. It’s why it’s so important to investigate claims, trace sources, and think critically about information even when it’s coming from a seemingly trustworthy source.

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    Yeah, that’s a Blue Checkmark, that means the opposite of what it used to mean, I’m going to assume none of this happened, it’s not like any of these people can be held accountable for lying to get clicks.

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    NYT after endorsing a Dem for 70 years:

    Maybe 81 is too old to be president?

    “Moderates”:

    You’re exactly the same as trump supporters and you always have been.

    It’s still insane how similar the far right of both parties are acting these days.

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      Ok yes fair but fuck the NYT, they deserve every bit of criticism they get

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      Yep. New York Times 3 months ago was the bastion of everything Dems stood for, including both sidings trans healthcare and “genociding brown people good actually”.

      And even with a full endorsement of Biden and his team, asking “81 is getting old, we’ll report the news of people talking an actually real talking point” they just start foaming at the mouth, claiming all media against them is bought and sold. Like a certain dipshit orange fucker’s group of mindless idiots.

      (They are so close to understanding what Chomsky said about media and the government, but refuse to understand it.)