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      4 months ago

      I’m going to start collecting receipts for the very next time I see a comment like this, because people are definitely saying that.

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        Yeah a lot of the .ml guys love genocide when the victims are Ukrainians or Uyghurs. Or Palestinians, they want Donald in office to help Israel genocide faster.

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          No I don’t. I just think it’s more complicated than just leaving Israel out of it. As much as I hate what they are doing, what is being done is not by us personally. The complications come with all the supplies. It’s not as simple on an ally front to just pull support.

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          “BuT wHaT aBoUt…” And “Donald Trump would be worse”

          Are we playing liberal bingo? Next tell me that the president can’t change diplomatic policy, I’ve almost got a whole line.

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            Yeah, great thinking. Muslim ban guy saying “Israel should finish the job” and the party that wants to deport protesters, have the National Guard brutalize protesters, and/or nuke Gaza will do a better job here.

            Please get a clue.

            Even on this issue alone Donald will be doing more genocide. That’s in addition to the numerous crimes and corruption he will do. He will certainly increase the deaths of Ukrainians as well.

            It’s very tiresome to hear the disingenuous shit, even when it is from genuine and earnest useful idiots instead of cosplaying redcaps.

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                The thing is Bibi wants Donald to win because he knows Repubs will accelerate the genocide. You love the genocide so you also want Donald to win. You want Ukrainians to be slaughtered.

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                  You’ve already filled the bingo card, you don’t need to continue screeching.

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      The next Israel thread you see, go point out how Biden is a piece of shit for supporting a genocide and see what happens

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        Yeah but nobody is saying genocide isn’t always bad. They may try to pretend it’s not genocide. Or that it would be genocide with trump too. Just not what the meme suggests

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          Yeah ok fair point. I guess that was what the “it’s complicated” is going for? Otherwise yeah the meme is just silly

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        People being cagey about language that discourages turnout is not the same as condoning genocide, if anything it’s being paranoid about the genocide coming here too.

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          Yeah I get that. It just looks real fucking bad how a lot of people seem more bothered about “discouraging turnout” than the actual genocide going on. Despite not being American I do care about the outcome, but not as much as what is happening right now.

          being paranoid about the genocide coming here too.

          Lol imagine if you didn’t have to “be paranoid” because it was actually happening. Obviously Americans should care about American politics but this is the most privileged take given the situation

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            Telling a Palestinian they’re privileged because they don’t want a genocide against their people to spread to the diaspora too because a buncha white kids “I’M HELPING!”-ed a slate of fascists into power is definitely a fucking take.

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              So are you saying if Trump gets into power the genocide will spread to the Palestinian diaspora in the US too? I really think the actual thing which is actually happening deserves criticism right now. Talking about these theoretical outcomes if (theoretically) enough people vote for the fascist convicted felon does not take away from the current reality of what Biden is doing.

              This is an argument for the voting booth. I agree with you there. But I think the point of the meme is that these conversations get bogged down in this shit immediately.

              I don’t care that you’re Palestinian. Perhaps privileged was a bit much but this take is really just a misdirection, and it doesn’t help the Palestinians that are actually dying right now.

              “Supporting genocide bad”

              Leads to…

              “Oh sweet summer child let me explain the broken American political system to you…”

              Not…

              “Yes supporting genocide bad”

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      liberals or tankies, depending on which genocide(s) they defend

      The only difference between the two is what governments they defend…

      So, yeah, obviously.

      I don’t know why people act like “tankies” are some unique subset.

      They’re people that lie about being on the left while supporting authoritian politicians no matter what they do.

      The fact that they do it with China isn’t that different than the ones who do it for other countries. They’re doing the exact same shit.

      People want to keep shuffling all these labels around and pretending shits different just because the label is.

      They’re the same types of people doing the same shit. They don’t all need their own group.

      It’s like when right wingers say they can’t be a nazi because they never invaded the Champagne region of France…