No, but therapy and medication should still be universally accessible.
I’m not trying to create a strawman, but think it’s worth clarifying that mental health resources aren’t the problem either.
While not strictly wrong, many of the the anxiety and stress related disorders are directly related to the pressures placed upon people under our Capitalist system. Psychopharmacology as a field would look very different if it wasn’t been used to prop up a workforce that’s hanging on by a proverbial thread.
I think we should have our needs met and have access to mental health resources
Exactly, I even have this opinion as sublemmy background/description.
This is an ongoing discussion in the psychiatric sector, in which the medical model (you’re sick, you go to doctor, doctor treats you, you get better) doesn’t work anymore. The toxic environments that are causing us mental trauma are ones we are expected to endure to survive. It would be as if a lumberjack with a broken leg was expected to continue to work at full quota while still recovering.
I agree that societal pressures can be a cause and exasperating force of mental health issues in some cases, but that does not diminish the efficacy of medication on mental health conditions. Are medications over prescribed? Perhaps. Does that mean that the barriers to receive medicinal mental health interventions should be higher? I don’t think so.
Source: Medically-stabilized bipolar person
Who says the barrier should be higher? I’m all in for universal basic healthcare. I described what this post is about in my other comment.
Like … yes, but also no.
It’s really important IMO for folks to keep in mind that anti-psychiatry / anti-medical people borrow this rhetoric heavily in order to make their own goals sound appealing to the antiwork / anticapitalist demographics.
So absolutely - you can’t “therapy” away poverty, and antidepressants don’t cure eviction; but it’s definitely worth understanding that as much as poverty and work-related stress can contribute to or even cause mental disorders - those disorders still need treatment, and in most cases they won’t be fixed if the person’s financial situation is restored. Like how bad OHSA can cause injuries, but fixing the OHSA doesn’t put Timmy’s leg back on - people can be wealthy and retired, and still have depression or anxiety. Just because someone is also poor, or under workplace stress, doesn’t invalidate their mental health as mental health.
If someone is experiencing distress due to their mental health, regardless if that is caused by finances, they should have access to treatment and aid, and they should have the support of their working-class peers.
Diminishing the independent significance of mental health and mental disorders in order to make points about work and finance cheapens both viewpoints for the gain of neither.
1.) It’s not about deminishing independent significance of mental health and mental disorders in order to make points about work and finance but pointing out how much current working society strains our mental health.
2.) Not only does the current society create mental health problems but also makes mental health problems WORSE for people with unrelated mental health problems. Making things easier for everyone would help everyone get better including people with independent mental health problems and mental disorders and not the opposite like you say.
Medical community sold out around 1970s… Sure many medical professionals are decent people but the system as whole is corrupt PoS that can only handle physical trauma and certain set of deceases/issues are profitable.
The whole you need a doctors note bullshit speaks for itself… how can a peasant afford a doctors note? Why should this peasant need to go see 200 bucks clown to get basic antibiotic script?
Not to downplay mental health issues but it is only recently became accepted that over working is bad lol
Maple-flavoured peasant here - Dr’s Note requirements make way more sense in a functioning healthcare system as a specific way of justifying medical-related leave. If I want to access workplace support for medical emergencies, or long-term leave, I don’t think it’s wild unreasonable that the employer wants to see some measure of proof that it’s legit.
Using it to address general absenteeism as a starting policy for any day off is fucking stupid, but that’s on the employers and not the doctors.
