• dragontamer@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    First two are communication platforms with direct spying concerns and the car industry always was a proxy for Tank production.

    Yeah. If China is a better country at manufacturing EVs than the USA, that means they can make more war material than us. That’s absolutely a national security threat.


    The 3rd case is more of honest competition. But it’s a huge concern to any warfighter. USA won WW2 by making more vehicles than the Nazis and Japanese. If China can out-manufacture us, we absolutely have to consider the new realities of the modern battlefield

    It’s a well known fact that Nazi tanks were a lot better than American tanks. We just outnumbered the shit out of the Nazis.

    I don’t think EV production will lead to tanks like how WW2 did. But EV production almost certainly is a modern drone / Li-ion battery.

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      Actually EVs collect a huge amount of information including video and audio of the participants. It’s a huge privacy issue regardless of manufacturer country but you obviously should distinguish the difference between a foreign country collecting information on your citizens compared to your own. Neither is good but one clearly has more authoritarian tendencies and less scruples about finding and coercing compliance with any means at their disposal.

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        There isn’t anything inherent with an EV to necessitate video/audio recording capabilities.

        If you’re concerned about an EV having that ability, you should be equally concerned about traditional vehicles as well.

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          I literally read something this morning on how you can now get cybersecurity insurance for your car. For a fucking CAR. Why tf do the circumstances exist that that’s even a possible market?

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    The USA has never had a free market and doesn’t really claim to, certainly not internationally. It’s the people who get a boner when looking at a snake on a yellow background that claim the USA has a free market.

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    9 months ago

    This ad brought to you by US-MIC - the impasse of a 60’s shift to venture capital and the treason of offshoring. The mouth has found the asshole after eating its own tail and it doesn’t like the smell. Just you wait…

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    9 months ago

    It’s simply stunning to think that somewhere a vote will go to Trump because the government tried to protect American elections and privacy.

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    China didn’t even let US apps and sites in in the first place though. Hell they don’t even have TikTok but a different app. They straight copied Google with Baidu, Amazon with Alibaba, and same for so many others. Never allowed Facebook nor Twitter. Then they complain when the US debate whether to limit theirs operating here a decade or more later. Meanwhile china has hacked and stolen an insane amount of IP including full on fighter jet designs. And are the highest source of hacking by far, as they have been for a decade. This is a weak argument based in ignorance. I guess that’s to be expected from a self proclaimed token boomer