This is stupid. They’re both capitalist parties, but Republicans are clearly the greater evil.
If you live in the USA and can’t feel the difference between republican and democrat leadership you are in a very privileged place. Show some empathy.
this is dumb af
Why?
Because just about every piece “Both Parties Are The Same” rhetoric at play, right now at this point in history, aid and abet Trump’s (read Vladimir Putin) plan to destroy democracy.
I wish I was being hyperbolic, but I’m not.
Because just about every piece “Both Parties Are The Same” rhetoric at play, right now at this point in history, aid and abet Trump’s (read Vladimir Putin) plan to destroy democracy.
and
democrat (/republic) party is controlled by banks (/big business)
both can be true. That’s why this rhethoric so effective
also:
OP asks why
downvoted to 2/17
this is reddit all over again. I am starting to wonder why I ever left
Maybe you missed the part about the collapse of democracy, which would be the crystal fucking clear consequence of Trump becoming president again. Russian-style “democracy” with a heavy handed white christian nationalist bent.
this is reddit all over again. I am starting to wonder why I ever left
Maybe go back there.
OP asks why
downvoted to 2/17I’m just finding out lemmy is crazy for this. Earlier today a guy got brigaded and later post removed because he suggested that people use the mods to sanitise the forum of any dissenting opinion.
I myself made a comment suggesting that “both-siderism” is really a matter of perspective and people should question their leaders rather than continue to choose the lesser of two evils, remaining in a constant state of fear. I asked why people felt that way to a similar result.
Now you have very reasonably tried your hand at reasonable compromise to a similar result.
How is any of this espousing the virtues of democracy?
Lemmy isn’t reddit all over again, it’s worse.
Both parties are run by the oligarchy. Where’s the lie?
GP’s point is not, that it is a lie, but that this argument is used by anti-democrats.
I’m not a Democrat and I’m not a Republican. I’m far left.
Scanning your posts, I see tons of direct shots at Biden, and just about no posts about Trump, with the exception of signs of rising support for Trump among such and such group, how global markets are planning for Trump, and so on.
Absolutely nothing warmer than a backhanded complement for Biden, a net narrative of Trump gaining ground amongst various demos that don’t vote Republican.
I’m not a Democrat
I believe this.
and I’m not a Republican.
You might be, or you might be a troll in a factory. The rhetoric overlaps; so whether you’re a republican or not is irrelevant.
I’m far left
Of course you are.
return2ozma is almost certainly a Russian agent or bot, or someone that deeply sympathizes with far right/fascist beliefs. He is only pretending to be “far left,” and shows zero interest in actually promoting any kind of left-wing policies. In short, he’s an outrageous troll, and people need to ignore or block him. Also, he needs to be report everywhere for being a troll.
I’m far left
shits on any leftward progression while “ironically” cheering on donnie dump
Theres too many of these. So happy to see em getting called out on it.
I often see people on lemmy deride others for not posting things that would be directed at trump supporters here, on lemmy, which has a total of 0 vocal trump supporters. Tbf, how do you know this OP isn’t posting that content where it would actually be seen by those who’s jimmies would be rustled by it?
It’s entirely possible that this anonymous individual is also on trumpsocial or whatever the fuck it is as another anonymous individual trolling them there where they are, and is posting content that would be subversive here, here. Frankly it’d make more sense, anti trump stuff here is just a circle jerk, we all hate him dude.
Here we go again… “you’re a Russian bot/Trumper/Republican because you’re critical of Biden!”
K.
Maybe you missed the part about the collapse of democracy, which would be the crystal fucking clear consequence of Trump becoming president again. Russian-style “democracy” with a heavy handed white christian nationalist bent.
Where’s the lie?
In the intellectual dishonesty to ignore the existential threat to democracy, as outlined above. It’s almost as though you’re payed to signal that way.
One wants women to bleed out when they have a corpse in their body, the other doesn’t. Simple stuff.
I’m 14 and this is deep
Looks exactly like the kind of messaging that republicans have kept on quietly pushing towards potential left-leaning voters to keep them unengaged and aloof, for years and years.
A large serving of divide and conquer propaganda, plus making voting more difficult wherever they can, plus extreme flagrant gerrymandering. Cripple and destroy government programs whenever in power, keep on blaming “both sides” for it, election after election.
“Look how stupid they are! They keep on falling for it, we keep on serving it!”
This is so dumb.
“No reason to vote they are all the same.”
Yeah that’s how you erode democracy, by telling people it’s pointless to vote. On the other hand especially the American democracy has issues, as their two part system doesn’t allow for fine tuning of opinions and invites polarization. I hope at some point in future you guys become a real multi party democracy.
You’d think the Democrats would have more money then…
“”“Big Bank”“” yeah right. Just say who you really mean, coward.
Biden was a senator from Delaware for nearly 40 years…
House of Cards - How Joe Biden helped build a financial system that’s great for Delaware banks and terrible for the rest of us.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/11/biden-bankruptcy-president/
But… Banks are businesses…
Oh look, another lazy-ass “Both sides amirite” meme.
Removed by mod
yes our next octogenarian in power will surely fix everything!
look! he even promised! nothing wrong with this democracy here, nuh uh!
One will erode vulnerable people’s safety faster than the other. To not vote for reduced risk for vulnerable people is callous privilege.
you mean the us-mexico border camps arent currently eroding vulnerable peoples safety? that war in gaza? all the destruction the us is always sponsoring around the world…
its rightully horrible when trump does this kind of thing but lets pretend its all good now and it isnt happening under our guy.
When did I say that? Don’t try to put words in people’s mouths
refer to your last comment on this chain.
are mexicans or gazans not vulnerable people your current administration is ruining the lives of? the ones you imply to care about?
They absolutely are. And Biden is failing many topics, but trump would be worse.
Which is why i said “faster”.
Fuck off with the assumptions and loaded replies. It’s all trump apologetics with yall
what you wanted empty replies just agreeing with this absurd notion choosing evil is democratic somehow? so minorities are important but making the problem worse is somehow not worthy of criticism this time?
i doubt trump would be that much worse because we’ve seen him be about the same, except he was loud about it. no actual democracy would ever let him run again, yet here we are.
fascism is not stopping at the press of a button, or just because its perpetrator isnt being loud about it.
American democracy is a mess and one party is still MASSIVELY FUCKING WORSE.
A dilemma between continued late-capitalist problems and open fascist dictatorship still has a right answer!
so called*
if you go back to see what was done, its functionally the same. the discourse is less harmful, i can give you no more than that.
i say this as someone who just elected my own ““left”” wing president, still mostly the same bullshit, but under a veil.
you can go vote for the lesser evil (still evil) like i did but at the end of the day only organized public pressure will reverse the direction we are barreling towards. thats regardless of the figurehead currently in power, until they normalize more violence.
