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I’m not a fan of the cookie consent popups, but I do appreciate the EU actually trying to do something to protect people’s privacy. Seemingly the only major entity to do so right now.
That was my first thought as an American. It’s refreshing to see that 1. They attempted something meaningful in the first place 2. They recognize it isn’t perfect/not having the intended effect and are making adjustments.
This seems like a functioning government.
It would be nice if the options weren’t like “Enable all cookies” and “navigate 4 menus that try to convince you to enable all cookies.”
It would be better if you could set your preference on the browser once and never have to mess with it again unless you want to have exceptions for specific sites
In theory this is done. There is a Do Not Track (DNT) header that is browser defined. Does anyone use it? Do they fuck.
I use it and the browser kindly explained to me that the feature is mostly useless because sites don’t give a shit about it.
Sorry, I’ll revise to what I intended (since I also use it). “Does anyone pay attention to it? Do they fuck.”
AFAIK the regulation already says that the “only necessary” should be available with one click. I think the issue is that it’s difficult to go after all the small pages that are breaking the law. The big ones like YT of Google already have the ‘disable all’ button on top, I’m guessing because EU complained.
It doesn’t say that it should be available with one click.
It says that accepting should be just as easy as declining. Which also includes things like not being allowed to have a “greyed out” button to reject while the accept button is big and sparkly.
Yes, I think you’re right. And everything should be disabled by default, right? So the pages that make you do ‘configure -> disable all -> save’ definitely don’t follow the rules.
It depends on the country. GDPR is not a law. It’s a framework that countries use to implement national laws. GDPR doesn’t say anything about one-click rejection, but some countries added it to their national law.
Just make it illegal to sell user data to “data partners”, and use cross site tracking.
Nobody actually “consents” to this shit. They just don’t read.
Now don’t make it worse!
Narrator: They made it worse
What’s annoying is the “Reject” button hidden on another page. That should be illegal.
And it actually is… Quote from the GDPR:
It shall be as easy to withdraw as to give consent.
Pretty sure it is
They should do something about “consent platforms” using various DNS tricks and thousands of domain names to bypass/evade user blocks.
I wasn’t so bothered about some non-invasive ads a few years ago, but I absolutely despise any kind of ad now TBH, and it’s mainly down to how persistent some of these platforms are with their evasion tactics
Also pretty ironic for their popups to talk about “respecting” my privacy when these platforms literally do the opposite of that to show their popup in the first place. I will not support any of them, in any way, on my network.
As soon as I see a new one appear when browsing, I chuck it into dnsdumpster so it can get recorded with the rest of them, and then block the new list from dnsdumpster (grid icon) on my network.
And you know what? That’s cool. They’re not doubling down, they’re not staying the course. I’ve spent a lot of time in the EU and yeah, those cookie pop ups absolutely are annoying, but as a US citizen it’s a reminder of how the EU is trying to protect its citizens, FBFW, how the US is still bending to corporatocracy, and I am simultaneously envious and annoyed as I click “Alle Ablehnen”.
It would be less annoying if you could easily tell it that you don’t want garbage. Instead, when you select your preferences you have to go through a whole list of options. By the time you’re finished customizing your cookie preferences you’ve forgotten why the hell you went to the page and what the hell the page is. It’s ridiculous. It should be as simple as having two buttons: one for accepting the site’s default garbage and another for for rejecting the site’s default garbage.
The browser extension Consent-o-matic does this and was developed with money from the European Commission.
All of these comments that say different things, but all sound like “just do X, I’m an expert in EU laws and their theoretical consequences”. It’s as simple as that, is it? Wonder why nobody thought of that before.
Admittedly, but I for one can say with justified self-reliance that I expected this outcome even before the directive was in force.
Nice
Just add 2 things:
- Cookie settings are possible to set in the browser for all pages.
- There’s a reject all button on every cookie banner.
No, just ban the collection of user data and selling to 3rd parties. Enormous fines for anyone still doing it. Destroy this entire industry please.
Not only are they annoying, they go half way to legitimising the theft of user data.
I actually just landed in the EU for the first time since 2014, and i’m honestly quite pleased with the notifications i’m getting (albeit not the ones discussed here). The first time I opened AirBnB since landing, it asked me permission for all the data it wanted to collect for targeted advertizing, and I was actually able to turn off most of it. I wish the US had the same.
The website popups are quite annoying, but those are easier to control anyway by picking better browsers and extensions.
OH THANK f’ING GOD
Just don’t remove it entirely, currently companies will at least pretend to comply.
bEFORE yOU cONTINUE tO gOOGLE sure is annoying though.
Please do remove it entirely.
I manufacture data about myself. Businesses want to collect this data for their commercial benefit and profit, without paying me. Cookie splash screens almost provide a method for this to happen legitimately, while still not providing me fair consideration.
Businesses should be prohibited from collecting user data, from taking value, without paying for it.
How could you enforce a ban on any kind of user data and how could such a compensation system even work?
A ban wouldn’t work, because data collection is endemic. The cat is out of the bag.
Compensation could work through legislation and a commercial structure that dictates how things should be bought and sold. In Germany, rent is decided by the local town hall (Rathaus) on a per square metre basis. Such a system is not without flaws, but it’s better than unfettered abuse by those who have against those who have not.
I don’t know where you have your ideas about Getman rent from but I assure you that, barring some rent-control, the German rental market is free.
Remove banners, just make the companies respect the browser setting.
There are sites that respect the “do not track” setting of the browser and just display a small timed info on your first visit that cookies have been rejected. Example: geizhals.eu geizhals.de
