By and large, tech workers specifically are some of the least amenable to class consciousness I have ever seen
This thread is about a bunch of them getting fired from great jobs over anti-imperialism. That’s a lot more of a commitment than most people have made (probably even most here).
I will never forgive them for just rolling over.
This just isn’t accurate. Tons of people insisted on keeping WFH, changed jobs over it, turned down higher pay to keep it, etc., and the companies that really pushed people back to the office had to use all sorts of carrots and sticks to make it happen.
The bosses are correcting for '20-'21, and they are having their way with a crowd of yes-men all the way down. That is the reality. Tech workers will not unionize- that is a tree I’ve been barking up for just as long as I’ve been in this industry and of something like five jobs I’ve had in that time none of them wanted it. There is no solidarity in this income bracket.
and the companies that really pushed people back to the office had to use all sorts of carrots and sticks to make it happen.
Only one of the big 5 does it anymore, last I checked, and it was hybrid- since 2022 they’ve been pushing RTO, and now (as of early last year at the very latest) they have been requiring full time in-office participation again. The rest of the industry follows whatever they do. Very few people had or have the luxury of “just switching” to remote work when the big players decide non-negotiable RTO and the smaller ones continue to follow. Despite the popular narrative, frequent job hopping is not actually that easy unless you subscribe to nepotism or chronic schmoozing; “the hustle” is not very radical, as it turns out. You have a romanticized view of what happens at the ground level of tech and the type of people working there, and it isn’t true.
the ones doing the sit-in are a fraction of a fraction.
It’s that way in most industries. Leftists, especially ones willing to get fired over anti-imperialism, are rare everywhere in the U.S.
I broadly agree there’s less potential for radicalization in the tech sector compared to many industries, it just might not be as comparatively bad as it looks, because it’s not great most places.
they’ve been pushing RTO, and now (as of early last year at the very latest) they have been requiring full time in-office participation again
This is what I’m saying – people didn’t roll over, they had to be forced back to the office. You still have people clinging to whatever WFH time they have left.
people didn’t roll over, they had to be forced back to the office.
Over these last four years I saw more “we should be given the choice” and “if you work from home efficiently that’s fine but I don’t” from my colleagues & peers than making remote-only the red line it should have been for all of us. There is no choice if the line is crossed even once. The owning class didn’t have to force anything, not really. There were enough “compradors” holding the door open for them when they decided they’d played the game long enough. That’s what I mean by “rolling over”; that should not have been allowed to happen, but it was.
This thread is about a bunch of them getting fired from great jobs over anti-imperialism. That’s a lot more of a commitment than most people have made (probably even most here).
This just isn’t accurate. Tons of people insisted on keeping WFH, changed jobs over it, turned down higher pay to keep it, etc., and the companies that really pushed people back to the office had to use all sorts of carrots and sticks to make it happen.
I have been working in this field for almost two decades- I know what they’re like, and the ones doing the sit-in are a fraction of a fraction.
How many more are just like this? Or worse? (hint: it’s a lot!) https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/4083280
The bosses are correcting for '20-'21, and they are having their way with a crowd of yes-men all the way down. That is the reality. Tech workers will not unionize- that is a tree I’ve been barking up for just as long as I’ve been in this industry and of something like five jobs I’ve had in that time none of them wanted it. There is no solidarity in this income bracket.
Only one of the big 5 does it anymore, last I checked, and it was hybrid- since 2022 they’ve been pushing RTO, and now (as of early last year at the very latest) they have been requiring full time in-office participation again. The rest of the industry follows whatever they do. Very few people had or have the luxury of “just switching” to remote work when the big players decide non-negotiable RTO and the smaller ones continue to follow. Despite the popular narrative, frequent job hopping is not actually that easy unless you subscribe to nepotism or chronic schmoozing; “the hustle” is not very radical, as it turns out. You have a romanticized view of what happens at the ground level of tech and the type of people working there, and it isn’t true.
It’s that way in most industries. Leftists, especially ones willing to get fired over anti-imperialism, are rare everywhere in the U.S.
I broadly agree there’s less potential for radicalization in the tech sector compared to many industries, it just might not be as comparatively bad as it looks, because it’s not great most places.
This is what I’m saying – people didn’t roll over, they had to be forced back to the office. You still have people clinging to whatever WFH time they have left.
Over these last four years I saw more “we should be given the choice” and “if you work from home efficiently that’s fine but I don’t” from my colleagues & peers than making remote-only the red line it should have been for all of us. There is no choice if the line is crossed even once. The owning class didn’t have to force anything, not really. There were enough “compradors” holding the door open for them when they decided they’d played the game long enough. That’s what I mean by “rolling over”; that should not have been allowed to happen, but it was.