I was not aware that scifi could be this good.

Only on S1 E17 (“only” as if I didn’t start watching this like 3 days ago) and I’m told it only gets better. It has not disappointed me yet even with its wildest shit.

how I feel abt some of the characters

Sisko is the chad Old Guard Stalinist who makes questionable decisions at times and is a hardass boss but his intent and his impact are always in service to the people, all people.

Kira is my forever unrequited love (as she is fictional). Kira is absolutely amazing, the revolutionary who actually seized power and is now dealing with the ugly consequences of having said power. She’s the forever-revolutionary and at least so far a goddamn aspirational one and a Bajoran global hero.

Julian needs to keep his libido in check. Thirsty as fuck and has some xenorientalism to work through. Incredible doctor and is devoted the cause when it makes necessary demands.

O’Brien is an absolute Stakhanovite and I love him for it. Wish I was raised by him instead of my dad.

Odo is so badass. So far he only has a fleeting understanding of his species, but at least from the perspective of some, Odo is a living relic. People tell ancient myths about changelings! He is perhaps the last of his kind (idk, s1 e17) and I think he stands as a wonderful representative of his people. The People’s Constable through and through.

I hope Quark has a mindbreak and becomes a communist or he’s murdered on-screen. I understand the series goes into more detail about the reasons why the Ferengi are like that… but to be completely honest, in the Star Trek universe at least, I would almost definitely be quite racist against Ferengi. Sisko didn’t want Jake to hang out with Nog and I sympathized. I like that he came to his senses later that xenoracism is uncool, but Nog so far has only gotten worse and worse in his profit-before-people shit. Hope it changes.

Dax is interesting. I like the Trill lore. I’m not sure if the Curzon Dax stuff has more context in earlier iterations or not, but it hasn’t hampered my enjoyment of Dax’s character. Old man.


Blows my mind that this came out in 1993. It feels like communist art. Diplomacy first, always. Profiteering is disgusting and condemnable and humans should have no desire to do it, to the extent that it would be literally alien to us to fuck over others just for economic gain. The Bajoran politics are fascinating and, like I said, I love Kira and stan whatever carbombings she had to do to win independence.

Also, the Cardassians are fucking horrifying and look like animated and decaying Greco/Roman statues. I get major Rome and Amerika vibes from them, though the Ferengi are also quite Amerikan.

Can’t believe I’ve put off Star Trek for this long. Also can’t believe there was ever a freakin’ debate between whether Star Trek or Star Wars is better, I’m feeling a radical difference in tone. In DS9 at least, there’s rarely been le good guys and le bad guys the way there is in Star Wars especially post-Disney. I feel Star Wars also plays up the heroic fantasy to the 14th level, which is ok, but not necessarily interesting aside from visually, at least to me.

Anyway, I love this show and would like to see what people wanna say about it.

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    How I envy you watching it through for the first time :)

    When it was on network TV it was hard to follow because it had such long story arcs. But when you can watch it consecutively at your leisure and absorb the plot it’s evidently the Magnum Opus of the Star Trek universe. As another commenter said, by season 3 the characters really start to shine in their own ways and you will love almost all of them. And then you will see how they fit together when shit gets real.

    IMO DS9 has a proper balance of utopic ideals and actions alongside dealing with many complex situations without a “nice and easy” answer. New Star Trek has too much of darkness and dystopic vibes for my taste (real life is bad enough, I could use a bit more utopia sprinkled in my Star Trek)

    DAE wish they had a dad like Sisko? (maybe just me)

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      Sisko seems like a phenomenal father, single dad just trying his best.

      I adore the scenes where he’s trying (but failing) to explain how to le romance women to Jake and he’s like “Well Jake the one thing you oughtta know about women is you gotta respect em as fellow human beings”, it’s so funny but quite heartwarming as well. Watching him flirt with Jennifer in the beach flashback scene made him feel so human and uhhh attractive lol. When his human shows through, I feel all warm and tingly inside. When his loyal party functionary shows through, I feel inspired, real oorah type vibe.

      There are terrible aspects of our age of streaming, but I do feel blessed to be able to watch this show on demand. (It and the Walking Dead lol)