I was not aware that scifi could be this good.

Only on S1 E17 (“only” as if I didn’t start watching this like 3 days ago) and I’m told it only gets better. It has not disappointed me yet even with its wildest shit.

how I feel abt some of the characters

Sisko is the chad Old Guard Stalinist who makes questionable decisions at times and is a hardass boss but his intent and his impact are always in service to the people, all people.

Kira is my forever unrequited love (as she is fictional). Kira is absolutely amazing, the revolutionary who actually seized power and is now dealing with the ugly consequences of having said power. She’s the forever-revolutionary and at least so far a goddamn aspirational one and a Bajoran global hero.

Julian needs to keep his libido in check. Thirsty as fuck and has some xenorientalism to work through. Incredible doctor and is devoted the cause when it makes necessary demands.

O’Brien is an absolute Stakhanovite and I love him for it. Wish I was raised by him instead of my dad.

Odo is so badass. So far he only has a fleeting understanding of his species, but at least from the perspective of some, Odo is a living relic. People tell ancient myths about changelings! He is perhaps the last of his kind (idk, s1 e17) and I think he stands as a wonderful representative of his people. The People’s Constable through and through.

I hope Quark has a mindbreak and becomes a communist or he’s murdered on-screen. I understand the series goes into more detail about the reasons why the Ferengi are like that… but to be completely honest, in the Star Trek universe at least, I would almost definitely be quite racist against Ferengi. Sisko didn’t want Jake to hang out with Nog and I sympathized. I like that he came to his senses later that xenoracism is uncool, but Nog so far has only gotten worse and worse in his profit-before-people shit. Hope it changes.

Dax is interesting. I like the Trill lore. I’m not sure if the Curzon Dax stuff has more context in earlier iterations or not, but it hasn’t hampered my enjoyment of Dax’s character. Old man.

Blows my mind that this came out in 1993. It feels like communist art. Diplomacy first, always. Profiteering is disgusting and condemnable and humans should have no desire to do it, to the extent that it would be literally alien to us to fuck over others just for economic gain. The Bajoran politics are fascinating and, like I said, I love Kira and stan whatever carbombings she had to do to win independence.

Also, the Cardassians are fucking horrifying and look like animated and decaying Greco/Roman statues. I get major Rome and Amerika vibes from them, though the Ferengi are also quite Amerikan.

Can’t believe I’ve put off Star Trek for this long. Also can’t believe there was ever a freakin’ debate between whether Star Trek or Star Wars is better, I’m feeling a radical difference in tone. In DS9 at least, there’s rarely been le good guys and le bad guys the way there is in Star Wars especially post-Disney. I feel Star Wars also plays up the heroic fantasy to the 14th level, which is ok, but not necessarily interesting aside from visually, at least to me.

Anyway, I love this show and would like to see what people wanna say about it.

    • SovereignState@lemmygrad.mlOP
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      2 years ago

      potential spoilers

      On S3 E11-ish now. You bastards were right, this show just keeps getting better and better. I feel mostly similar about Kira, Sisko, and even Quark (although I do appreciate his necessity as a contrast to those in the Federation). But I love most of the characters even more than I did.

      newfound thoughts on characters

      Julian has learned to keep it in his pants. The two-parter Past Tense really showed me what his values are and I respect him far more now - it is so interesting watching his devotion to being a doctor first and foremost and a representative of the Federation second, and the conflicts of interest that may bring - like in the aforementioned Past Tense where he helps diagnose a child even though it may fuck up the past.

      Sisko grabbed the fucking shotty and was ready to make revolution and I have never felt so goddamn inspired by a show. Just, damn. He knows what the 21st century was like and the violence that was necessary. He knows in his own time that peaceful resolutions are more likely.

      Kira, oh Kira how I adore thee. I am excited to see her continue to work for Bajoran independence.

      Odo’s newfound understanding of his species and what I would almost consider his spiritual awakening hits so hard. I am so glad we got to delve into that and hope we delve into it even more. He’s crushing on Kira right now and I ship it, even though it seems a little bit impossible. I do also love he and Quark’s dynamic.

      On Quark… ugh, fuck this guy so hard. Last I saw of him he was trying to help a pervert molest holo-Kira… bro needs to learn his fucking lesson. I enjoy that the show deals with the inherent contradictions of being at all decent and being Ferengi, like when he fell for the feeeeemale Ferengi who was acting as a male. Of course he ends the episode saying he would not be happy unless she was always naked and completely subservient. I wanna rip his ears off. I appreciate his place in the show more, though.

      O’Brien has only gotten more based. The episode Whispers absolutely blew my mind and I love when he’s the main focus.

      Dax has become way more interesting now that Jadzia has been given a chance to shine through.

      I like the Cardassians as a foil to the Federation as well. I’m curious to see what happens with the Dominion in the picture, now. A military alliance may become necessary in the near future…?

      god I love this show.