As a Chinese person who loves the CPC–every fucking time I go onto baidu forums my feed gets clogged with a few interesting articles and all of this wonky shit.
Apparently if you express any opinions remotely pro-west, you get called a “bootlicker”, and of course there’s the classic “kneeling so long you no longer know how to stand” and that kind of super cringy shit. in addition, they seem to want Xi replaced with Chinese Hitler, as they genuinely think Chinese are the masterrace. There’s constantly shit about how black people are inferior, and one article even suggested a “final solution” for “dealing with the black problem”. They also seem to want the blood of white people & japanese, including several overenthusiastic posters who wanted to murder japanese women and children and feed their dead bodies to dogs.
Uh yeah totally sane just normal-ass patriotism, nothing to see here.
On the other end of the spectrum you have these guys who always criticize the government for no fucking reason. CCTV praises beauty of fields? They don’t understand the pain of the farmers. CCTV praise hard work? They don’t understand the pain of the workers. They seem to hold the belief that all government officials are evil and corrupt, city management exists to brutalize old people. They probably hold a higher view of the Gestapo than their own police. The source they’re probably getting this shit from? A TV show.
Yes, a fucking TV show. And not just any TV show but Kuang Biao, the Chinese Breaking Bad (in terms of cultural status, it’s not about meth). Yes, these people watch this show and apply it to reality. It’s kind of sad.
rant over.
disappointing. i expected things to be better under socialism. won’t understand the hateboner people around the world have for black people. i guess galaxy-brained people to this day still believe the darker your skin is, the viler you are.
though what’s wrong with pro-western people getting pushbacks? is there anything from the western world even worth praising about?
and lastly, reich-wingers and libs should see this post since they believe chinese social media is le authoritarian redfash 1984 orwell where you can’t say shit; despite usonian-esque posts being prevalent and going unpunished in chinese platforms.
and lastly, reich-wingers and libs should see this post since they believe chinese social media is le authoritarian redfash 1984 orwell where you can’t say shit; despite usonian-esque posts being prevalent and going unpunished in chinese platforms.
Yeah this part will spin the heads of libcons as Chinese social media is all over the place lol.
Places like Weibo and Zhihu (Twitter and Quora equivalents) are filled with pro-western liberals who won’t hesitate to lick Japanese and Western boots. You don’t even have to say anything pro-Russian, just being anti-NATO and anti-US will cause these bots/trolls to call you a “yellow skinned Russian” or even a “pinko commie”. There are also fascist (many calling themselves German enthusiasts) admirers spreading western propaganda about Azov and raising funds to support them.
There are also typical Reddit types whose reactions to any global or regional dispute with “nuke them already”. Even on the topic of Cuba/DPRK/USSR, you’d expect it to be 100% “1984 redfash support redfash” but again there’s plenty spreading the Western or nationalist versions of things lol.
One of the funniest comments I’ve seen was “a certain subset of Chinese love/worship the United States more than the Americans themselves” lol.
Places like Weibo and Zhihu (Twitter and Quora equivalents) are filled with pro-western liberals who won’t hesitate to lick Japanese and Western boots. You don’t even have to say anything pro-Russian, just being anti-NATO and anti-US will cause these bots/trolls to call you a “yellow skinned Russian” or even a “pinko commie”. There are also fascist (many calling themselves German enthusiasts) admirers spreading western propaganda about Azov and raising funds to support them.
To me this feels like the CIA has already infected the Chinese Webspace.
Also, what’s a “Pinko Commie”?
One of the funniest comments I’ve seen was “a certain subset of Chinese love/worship the United States more than the Americans themselves” lol.
Goddamn. Wish the CPC would trade them for Pro-PRC peoples.
To me this feels like the CIA has already infected the Chinese Webspace.
Also, what’s a “Pinko Commie”?
Completely infested, the web and social media is a shitshow including the domestic version of Tiktok which has a healthy amount of pro-US content lol.
Pinko is an old American term to label those who are sympathetic to ‘lefty’ ideals, so these users calling others ‘little pinks’ (literal translation, but meaning is essentially ‘commie’) pretty much tells us that they’re anti-CPC overtly while they’ll use more vague terms to cover for the fact that they’re the typical pro-west lib with a superiority complex.
Damn. Thanks for your insight into that aspect of Chinese (at least internet) culture. It makes sense that some would feel the need to over-correct as it were as China finds itself in a place of a ‘world power’ again after an extended period of imperial ‘humiliation’. Doesn’t make it right obviously and I hope the problem is properly contained - that being of reactionary nationalism taking the place of revolutionary nationalism and internationalism.
Yeah. There are good people who write essays and stuff about capitalism, but many tend to think of the USSR as a “Soviet Empire”. Hopefully time will take care of this.
It’s an interesting experience being considered moderate when you’re on the internet in one language and extremist when you’re on the internet in another isn’t it? Humanity is so fractured.
“The black problem”? Things that simultaneously make me grateful that I’m still in the research phase of trying to get out of this soon-to-be warzone; and depresses me with the thought that there does not seem to be a single nation on Earth that doesn’t have a vocal fraction that wants me and mine dead. It might not be as large as Amerika’s; but it still exists, and I won’t exist somewhere I feel I need to be in hyper-vigilance.
Not gonna martyr myself for an Amerikan, but simultaneously nowhere to go.
I do not want to pretend to know what your experience is like or like I have any worthwhile advice as a #FFFFFF sapiens, but have you looked into Barbados at all?
92% black, 20% irreligious, social democrat ruling party, recently became a republic (Nov 2021). Good and growing relationship with the PRC and part of the BRI, literacy rate around 100%.
In 2006, the U.S. sanctioned Barbados for not agreeing to exempt U.S. personnel from the ICC. China gave them aid, and in 2016 donated $3 million worth of military aid free of charge.
I don’t want to say it’s a perfect alternative to being here, but it sounds like a place on the up-and-up. Rent is considerably lower but general ‘cost of living’ appears a bit higher on average.
I’m vaguely recalling I may have suggested this before, to you lol. Maybe just a powerful case of deja vu. I want to fight for a better life for you and all of us in Burgerland comrade, but I get wanting to dip out, I’m sick of this shit. Just a potential option.
Also, Rihanna could be your national hero. So that’s… something.
I’m… Actually not sure if I’ve heard anyone pitch Barbados before, but if I’m frank with you, I’d rather deal with Black folk’s kinda-ribbing, kinda-sideeye colorism than this nation’s addiction to chalk outlines of Black bodies. I honestly have a bit of trepidation with regard to island nations given the very real potential for catastrophic sea rise in my lifetime; but Barbados sounds very much like the next place I should be looking into and whether or not the skillset I’m building right now can be put to work there.
Even sea rise is better than dying for nothing at the hands of a settler.
Barbados comes to mind primarily because of its vicinity to Amerika and the fact that all the lines are goin’ up if you know what I mean (GDP, PPP, poverty reduction etc.). Successfully undergoing an anti-imperial transformation with the support of the socialist world, kinda epic. Afrika proper is still being plundered and destroyed, and even Ghana is not easy to get into anymore, but some parts of the Caribbean may be a refuge for black asylum seekers. Barbados is safe, healthy, and educated, and even if it ain’t Marxist-Leninist like Cuba, it is excellent to see a nation of those descended from slaves - a nation of black people generally really - doing so well and on its way to potentially becoming a (limited by size) regional power, especially given its proximity to the core.
I can’t give much advice on how to get there ofc unless you got $2 million lyin around to invest in the Barbadian economy. Still worth lookin into I think, preachin to the choir I’m sure but I’m just sorry and fucking angry that you can’t sleep peacefully around here cuz who knows when some white mob is gonna get angry again. If they never get angry enough to mob up, it’s just cuz they’ve managed to keep black people “unsuccessful” enough that they don’t have anything to be envious of. (Though, no worries, we’ll consume the best bits of black culture and resell em to ya for a standard markup). Just fucking awesome. You deserve some rest, comrade, is all I’m tryna say.
Reminds me of a quote someone posted where they said sometimes comrades were more reliable than compatriots lol.
On one hand you have extreme nationalists who see even the overseas diaspora as traitors to be purged and on the other you have the strangely suicidal western fanatics who not only welcome but continue to support the yellow peril sinophobia nonsense (despite many living in the west themselves).
the black problem
is this actually a common opinion on Chinese social media, or are you just being recommended that type of far-right content because of some algorithmic quirk?
Depending on where one goes I guess, but they do appear commonly enough whenever any topic involving Africans in Guangzhou pops up.
really reminds me of europeans, particularly the attitude of nordics when they granted refuge to syrians.
That’s very unfortunate. I hope that’s not common among people outside of social media
Thankfully I only saw those one or two times. And yeah, I definitely get recommended weird stuff because of the algorithm, but I don’t know the extent.
Isn’t han supremacism literally illegal in China? That kind of behavior should be punished.
Not han supremacism necessarily. it’s more like xenophobia so it gets a pass.
i thought racism was illegal in china?
It’s against westerners, so it’s technically ok, but it gets really over the top sometimes.
Look up the shit posted by Indian Hindu nationalists on Twitter. You will feel better about your nationalists then.
Yeah a lot of shitty people popped out of no where in recent years, conspiracy theory, someone is funding right wingers in China to troll post online.
My guess would be exiled plutocrats that collaborate with the west probably are very active in undermining socialism. What could be more compromising to socialist internationalist solidarity, and advantageous to imperialism than fostering chuavanism in the PRC? And we know there are neolibs and nationalists in China that will incubate these sentiments.
I wonder if “internalized inferiority” from euro colonialism mixed with rapid success in industrialization might be a socially problematic combination in some instances and makes some people vulnerable to toxic nationalism. Especially when people are intentionally fanning the flames. It’s why the wisdom of the countryside has been prioritized for so long in China.
Sometimes I think I expect too much out of our comrades in the PRC and forget the struggles they face. We must double down on our own communities as we support our comrades abroad and their vital efforts to the struggle, or else we will never have the capacity for real solidarity.
Baidu forums is like 4chan and twitter had a baby
Not to mention the nature of internet (self explanatory);
and the nature of the population size (even if you have 99 good people for 1 hateful nazi in China making it infinitely better than the west, it still means China is a country with tens of millions of nazis running around);
and the nature of a socialist country that had to go through the propaganda and oppression of the post-cold war era (when you have been under decades of anti-third world pro-west propaganda, it’s hard not to push back in the other direction. Some of these people have been brainwashed and believed all their life that Chinese people are sinners who deserved genocide for wasting energy and pollution because of their inferior way of life, now they learn all long the average person in the west west waste and pollutes tens times more, what is the logical conclusion?);
I would say it’s fairly understandable and there’s no point letting it get to you. If I can think of a good comeback in 10 seconds I will type something, otherwise I just move on.
Can you post links to these posts? I’ve never seen anything like this and I want to learn more
It’s on baidu mobile. Scroll down and you shall receive.
Unfortunately, they’re here to stay. On the other hand, they serve as a reminder for us to keep on the right track.
