Both comments on a post when one guy kitbashed pretty nice soviet-inspired army for 40k
I don’t get this sub at all. Their whole “40k glorifies Naziism and if you like any faction other than Genestealer Cults you are not on the left” deal weirds me out. Comments like this just reek of Liberals who think they are communists because they watch Vaush.
I would argue that Genestealer cults are the most reactionary faction of them all because the cultish rebellion divert the working class from any real revolution. They also always call their big bug brothers and its sure as hell hard to do anything revolutionary when everyone is dead and the planet is stripped of all life.
Anyway, it’s not the point of entire post, the point is that yet again and again “big tents” and “leftist solidarity” serves to promote literal nazi propaganda. They named it “marxism” so it should be marxist.
Wonder how many of them are anarchists
Many. Bog standard COINTELPRO takes are quite popular there.
…yet again and again “big tents” and “leftist solidarity” serves to promote literal nazi propaganda.
This reminds me of something I’ve seen said in western left online spaces a lot. Who else has ever come across the trope of “left unity commumity gets couped by tankies and they purge all the non tankies and now it’s a tankie community”? I’ve seen this said a lot by radlibs.
Who has ever actually seen this happen, though? I sure as hell haven’t. My experience with left unity spaces is that the opposite happens: “anti-authoritarians” become mods and suppress the “tankies”. The only place I know of where this isn’t the case is Hexbear, and even there the userbase is feisty enough that bans and removal of posts/comments happen often.
This never happened. What happend once or twice was that ML’s win in the struggle sessions* upon which infantile disorder types left, loudly screaming and spreading that idiotic “stab in the back” legend.
What happend a lot of times is exactly what you wrote in the second paragraph.
*most famous example, GenZedong in the first days of Ukraine War. It got quarantined few days later in i’m sure neat coincidence.
I would argue that Genestealer cults are the most reactionary faction of them all because the cultish rebellion divert the working class from any real revolution. They also always call their big bug brothers and its sure as hell hard to do anything revolutionary when everyone is dead and the planet is stripped of all life.
+you know the shit they do to women to bolster their ranks before invasion.
TW:
Spoiler
They rape them and turn them into human incubation chambers.
Yeah i know, somehow it’s very rarily mentioned in Sig"marxism", i guess because anarchism and being sex pest goes hand to hand.
Oh, they’ve switched from Tau wank? Colour me unshocked
There was a struggle session about mainstream Tau and Farsight Enclaves after which the interest lessened a bit, i think former Farsight stans turned to Tyranids lol.
Talk about leftists infighting!
I mean i’m amazed how that mimic the real infantile disorder to fascism pipeline.
Tbf Nids are awesome.
But I never got the Tau wank, they’re a ultra-restrictive caste society and clearly fascist, just with better living conditions for most of their people.
The only thing nids have good are minis, easily best looking alien swarm type ever. Except that everything about them is completely boring standard alien swarm thing.
Compared to theocratical turbofeudalonazism of imperium or unhinged lovecraftian horrors of the chaos or eating all life bugs etc. Tau they are the second least worst faction out there, expecially that most of horrible things about them that were introduced after initial backlash were retconned after yet another backlash, plus ethereal caste and Greater Good were confirmed as honest attempt and not chaos cover up.
Funnily enough, i once read about project where the setting and its factions were turned around from grimdark to noblebright. The only one not touched at all were Tau and they were the worst faction there (idk about Tyranid though, i guess you can’t flip this thing).
Nids are a lovecratian horror tho. Lovecrafts horrors were the unknown and human actions flatout not mattering, any heroism against the hive mind is akin to one particulary troublesome shrimp - about to be eaten by a whale. The Shrimp can bite and stab all it want. It doesn’t matter. And the whale won’t notice.
It gets even more obvious when you remember Genestealer Cults, basically Lovecrafts cults summoning their gods.
Maybe all of the 40k factions are fascist and that universe’s lore has no dialectic of class struggle and is to violent to be realistic, thus serves as part of the superstructure for fascism.
it reinforces the idea that the conflict between tribes will always supercede the conflict between classes. It’s wrong on so many levels.
that universe’s lore has no dialectic
Hit the nail on the head here. At it’s core, Warhammer is, and has always been, a product of British liberals and it shows.
Popular uprising against cruel and malevolent oppression? Sike, it’s a chaos cult/genestealers/plot by a rival oppressive group. A civilization achieves post-scarcity? Sike, it devolves into mindless hedonism, casual cruelty and arrogance that would make bourgeoisie blush. Endless war? “Well that’s just human nature, coz humans suck lol”. On and on and on.
And that sub is supposed to be less reactionary than the likes of Grimdank. Well at least they’ve seemingly avoided the usual “human waves” bs
It is less reactionary than grimdank, but quoting the second guy “it’s a low bar”. And it often shoots like a bolter shell right up to the most extreme ultraleftism and liberal identity politics.
Aye, it appears to be populated largely by westieleftists, the kind we mock over here at the 'Grad
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But, like, why did the Soviets invade Poland at the time?
Few reasons: State was defunct few hours earlier due to government and military command running away to Romania (before they left they also gave explicit order to not engage Soviet forces, which was followed). By the way, interwar Poland and even Polish London government was never in a state of war againt USSR, the latter just didn’t had relations with USSR from its formation in 1939 to 1941.
Next reason was to get back the ethnically belarussian and ukrainian lands invaded and annexed by Poland in 1919-21.
Finally, after numerous tries at containing rising nazi threat and utter lack of doing anything by UK and France, USSR decided to grab buffor before inevitable nazi invasion. Politically it was immediately bad move, but in the hindsight after analysing the operation Barbarossa, it most likely (together with Baltics) gave Red Army enough time to mount defense and prevent capture of Leningrad, Moscow and Stalingrad which would in all likeliness lost the war.
You mean the subreddit?
Yeah, they suck.
