Defeat is the only way to describe it. I wonder how much longer western media can deny that reality.
You have conspiracist MLs (not all MLs, just the conspiracy theorists among us) that have a hard time explaining this, but it’s pretty obvious: the USA was sent packing. Whatever “negotiations” happened here and there mean nothing in the end; they happen in war-time all the time.
Someone please tell the conspiracists that the Taliban genuinely won this one with little to nothing in terms of concessions to the USA.
Seriously.
I was skeptical too because I don’t understand how after spending trillions and having much more advanced weaponry they could still lose. But everyone from communists to anti-war ex veterans are acknowledging this as a genuine defeat and I am inclined to believe them. It’s only warmongers in mainstream press that are in denial.
Thats because wars are not won by money or weapons, but by people. If one side refuses to surrender and keeps fighting despite losses, it cant be defeated. Thats how China pushed back against the United States in the Korean war, at a time when the US was vastly superior in terms of weapons. Its a similar situation in Palestine, where the people have refused to surrender to the occupation.
Edit: to determine victory or defeat, what matters is whether each side achieved its objectives. In case of the United States, their stated objectives in 2001 were to wipe out the Taliban, and establisha liberal democracy in Afghanistan. That obviously failed completely. The Taliban’s objectives were to overthrow the puppet government, and drive out the invaders, both of which they achieved. So its clearly a victory for the Taliban, and defeat for the US.
Exactly.
