UFC star Paige VanZant said OnlyFans allows her to make ‘life-changing money’

    • Cato_the_Posadist@lemmy.world
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      UFC pays like shit for all but the top talent.

      Tbf, she was never at risk of being considered that so it doesn’t say that much about the pay scale vs OF.

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        It’s not like the profession has been treating them with any more respect anyway.

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        I always say the NFL is the worst sport for athletes because their bodies get destroyed in return for relatively little money (at least for everybody except the superstars), but that’s because I always forget about the UFC.

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          Still though a practice squad player in the NFL is clearing $500k+ a season. So it’s at least a decent amount of money. Is it worth the future health problems with no pension? Not my decision, but at least it is an amount of money where there is a decision to be made.

          MMA, Boxing, WWE… Haha go fuck yourself.

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            Still though a practice squad player in the NFL is clearing $500k+ a season.

            It seems practice squad players actually make a minimum of $12K per week or $216K per season. Still not that bad compared to conventional jobs, but it’s not like you can have a 40-year career doing that.

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            And with the effects on long term brain health they have been unraveling in the past few years its a no dawg from me thanks. Unfortunately I’ve already gone through my sports playing days so it was already a yeah dawg.

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          Yeah, in the USA all the main ones do. Idk about less popular ones like lacrosse or even MLS though

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      I don’t think so. If it was a male UFC fighter, he’d stand no chance of making as much money as her on a site like OnlyFans. And the UFC is pretty good about equal pay based on gender.

      No, this is simply the newest iteration of one of the oldest truths in history: attractive women can milk desperate men for a king’s ransom any day of the week.

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    She made that much because she’s a known fighter established within the UFC. UFC pays shit but it pays shit across the board unless you are a superstar.

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        She’s making 50k a year + payouts from her fights.

        Assuming a 100k win bonus (it’s actually closer to 400 if you believe random books blogs and Internet rumors) even on the low side shes already made 1M in the past 5 years or so.

        Again estimating in their favor let’s say 60% of that goes to get camp and taxes. 125k a year for 3 fights is more than reasonable. It’s likely she is making more than that however.

        She isn’t very popular and would never be able to support her own card. She’s also used her popularity to get on network TV, and rake in a few million by getting laid. It’s not even porn shoots. It’s her own terms and partners.

        I’m not going to shed a tear for her. She’s set for life with any form of reasonable money management and clearly has leveraged her popularity from UFC and done well for herself.

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          If true, how much did she make in 24h on OnlyFans. She said it’s more than her entire career. I can’t believe she made over 1M in 1 day on OnlyFans.

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            It’s just 100k people paying 10 bucks each. It sounds like a lot of money but when you think about the numbers involved it gets really quite reasonable for someone in her position to do

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          I’m forgetting which UK news channel it was but they had a successful OF person on, tried the “what will your kids think of you” and she replied “they can cry about it in a Ferrari”

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          It’s not even porn shoots. It’s her own terms and partners.

          To somebody who doesn’t know the industry, can you explain to me why that matters in any way?

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            There’s probably a subtle difference between “exploiting yourself” and getting most of the money after OF fees, vs getting paid essentially minimum wage for a shoot which then gets repeatedly repackaged and distributed for the company that makes way more money off it than you ever did. Which on one hand is essentially the same as being any other actress, but also not remotely the same considering the material, and how many women regret being convinced to take part in it because of exposure and social backlash.

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              Would you like to shoot porn when someone you love and trust or a random person?

              For me personally it would honestly depend on if it was for work or for pleasure.

              For others, I have no idea.

              My understanding of the original comment I replied to with my question was concerning business/work.

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            Marketing, promotion, quality content generation - which in itself is a bucket load of work.

            You’ve got actual production work, setting up a decent lighting/camera/sound system for your content, preparing everything you need to film or run a quality live stream. Post production, editing takes longer than people think.

            But pre-production, there’s work to do on yourself, grooming and preparing physically, especially if you are going to be getting into anything fetish related, it adds another level of preparation (and possibly an extra level to post production clean up)

            It’s also not something you can always compartmentalise, I have a friend who does some generic feet stuff, she had to quit swimming and change her entire gym routine to allow herself to shower at home, because catching athletes foot meant she’d loose income. She has to choose her socks and shoes based on protecting the physical appearance of her feet. She can’t just chuck on some thongs (flip flops) in summer because her clientele don’t like the tan lines and are vocal about it.

            PR is important, you need to have time to engage with the audience, reply to messages and maintain the illusion of the parasocial relationship, to keep your subscribers keen. It can take easily take an hour a day to do if you have large enough fan base and want to maintain it.

            There’s a lot to like about the “person next door” charm of a low budget, low effort approach to nudes and clips, but that’s what most people on OF are already doing, so if you want real money you have to set yourself apart from that.

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    I think it’s sad seeing this considering all the women I know who have been suckered into making OFs only to make a few bucks from weirdos saving their nudes.

    Porn is the same, really. Most people who do porn make very little money from it, but still have to deal with their naked bodies on the internet.

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      Seems like you should only do fans (and similar pages) if you already have a fan base in some other area. Otherwise it will end like you said.

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        Or if you just actually want to do sex work. It’s like camming. It can be a hobby where you pick up a couple bucks here and there. If you want it to be a job it’s going to be more like trying to make it as a musician or actor.

        In general if you’re more or less normal you aren’t going to make any real money as a sex worker. Either you aren’t famous or attractive enough or you aren’t willing to do what it’ll take to make better money or you won’t settle for the little you’ll get or be willing to deal with people who have odd fetishes, possibly of your body type.

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      All internet media is basically the same on pay. Most people on you tube or twitch don’t make much either.

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        Yeah, but they don’t put their naked bodies out there.

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      Yep, even more so if they had to due to unfortunate reasons. Though not entirely, it works the same way as any average person starting something likestreaming and thinking of making it big quick.

      I reckon she only had this much success due to having some level of popularity to begin with.

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    OF out there making up for the gender pay gap

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      Trust me, it’s not.

      For every story like this, there are literally millions where regular women make next to nothing for their nudes.

      Most normal women with OFs usually end up having a few subs from people they know who just want to distribute their nudes among peers. Imagine thinking you’re going to make thousands when you end up making less than $100, and now everyone has your nudes.

      That’s the reality for most people on OF. And it’s sad.

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        It’s all down to exposure and even minor celebrity status can be leveraged to generate lots of views.

        You see a similar thing in the acting community: celebrity actors aren’t really better as actors than lots of unknowns out there (the quality all around of acting in places with very good acting colleges and a strong acting tradition, such as Britain, is really good) and often you get stories of people’s careers taking off due to a mix of luck and persistence, and once people are in the public eye their careers pretty much shift gears (for reference, the average actor in the UK earns in average less than minimum wage from Acting).

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        If you consider “people having your nudes bad”. I’m sure some do/have but many just don’t care. My friend’s sister has one. I subbed to support her and because she’s hot. Unsubbed later because she was too expensive. Hung out with her at a party once and she didn’t give a flying shit I had seen her buck naked. We just talked about normal stuff.

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    I can’t believe this stuff, because it is a fox “news” article. Why was this even posted here? How can we be sure that this is even real considering everyone on this post says you don’t make jack squat on that site