Anyone know a way of making vegan "crab legs"?

I know vegan crab meat exists, but they’re usually shredded, and it’s a lot harder to find than “imitation crab”, which is fish. I’m looking for something that at least somewhat mimicks the texture of whole crab leg meat like what they serve at upscale buffets. Also, anyone have any idea how to replicate the shell for the ascetic, either edible or inedible but safe to put hot food in?

This may or may not be inspired by that scene in the show Archer, with Pam chowing down on vegan crab legs, fake shell and all.

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@Echedenyan
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Sometimes, when I read these kind of questions for replacements, I replace it in my mind with the following with other species:

  • Hi, I am looking for vegetables which imitate human arms texture so I can do a full vegetable human to eat it.

Then, I put myself being an human and seeing that practice.

I would prefer that replacements in the diet part don’t try to look in that way. It is not only cringe, is completely horror at some sense.

There are some cases in which this leads also confusion for newbies making them centric in “I will go vegan if food tastes the same” not only skipping the ethics but missing the whole point of the change.

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I respectfully disagree. Since simulating meat with plants does not directly affect animal rights in any way since it doesn’t use any animal products, so TBH I don’t see it as incompatible with veganism. If I’m being honest, even though I’d personally not eat simulated human flesh nor would I actively recommend it to anyone, I think I’d generally wouldn’t see anyone simply choosing to eat simulated human flesh (without other questionable factors involved) as morally objectionable.

As for your second point, I don’t see how having more vegan alternatives harms the vegan movement, as more options lower the barrier to entry to veganism, can help people transition over by helping them acclimate to vegan tastes, and generally reduces animal exploitation if someone substitutes it for meat, even if the person is not fully vegan. I give you this example: as a socialist, I obviously think actual socialism is the way to go, but I will still give critical support to policies in capitalist nations that help prop up workers and common citizens in general, while at the same time still campaigning for full socialism, as I see any reduction in the suffering of workers as a small victory, even if it’s not perfect.

Obviously if simulated animal products is outside your comfort zone, don’t eat it and I absolutely do not encourage you to eat it if that’s the case, but I just want to voice my opinion on the concept itself.

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Maybe I didn’t explain myself. I didn’t say that “it is not vegan” or similar.

What I try to say is that is like you are still attached to the customs of that thing and indirectly the appearance and promotion of it is a dark past still maintained in other way.

I think that this should not be part of us anymore.

About lowering the barrier, I disagree with it. The barrier to lower would be access to it and education in public schools. And the access to it, I think it is not built in this way.

If an human is going to start respecting other individuals rights, modifying the diet to be similar in appearance is not a focus to achieve that by definition.

Edited: a similar thing happens with “Linux” and people expecting to be “user-friendly” but the definition of user-friendly for them is like a toy. They don’t think on an OS as the way to use a computer which is a tool and which they must learn.

They just expect to touch and do the things without learning to use the tool.

Edited 2: it is true that I cannot demostrate the source of the opinion in my first comment but since “Veggie” became trending as a diet, I see classmates speaking like this “I won’t go vegan if there is no replacement to cheese which tastes the same”.

Obviously, they miss the whole point and the “Veggie” trending (ofc by Veggie I speak about the food branding now in supermarkets like Lidl and Carrefour or Auchan) seems to be source.

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Edited 2: it is true that I cannot demostrate the source of the opinion in my first comment but since “Veggie” became trending as a diet, I see classmates speaking like this “I won’t go vegan if there is no replacement to cheese which tastes the same”.

I would argue that if someone sees a barrier that thin as keeping from veganism, not having vegan alternatives to animal products would not have done anything to convince them toward veganism, and therefore the presence of vegan “animal products” has anywhere from no effect on their ethical choices, to maybe a slight positive if they choose to substitute it for at least some real animal products. On the other hand, these vegan alternatives do help people genuinely concerned about what veganism stands for make the transition.

IMO , veganism is about protecting animals and protecting the environment, not about how food tastes or what they look like.

@Echedenyan
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The problem is that the barrier is not that thin, they think veganism is just a diet and not an ethical principle based in the respect of own interests of individuals of other species.

not having vegan alternatives to animal products

This is not what I touch here. This is a straw man.

What I say is specific to imitation where “vegan alternatives to animal products” involve everything.

As last thing, about the improvement, I understand the transition but that with “they make a little positive step”, I don’t see it as truth, if they are not concerned and participate actively in any kind of exploitation of individuals from other species it is not any improvement.

This is not about improvement the conditions of the environment, this is about respecting other species rights or not, which could have and have other attachments.

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And if vegan alternatives hadn’t become popular, they might not even know what veganism is or think it’s a fringe “hippie” ideology. Now that veganism is becoming more mainstream, serious discussions are being had among a larger part of the general population than ever before. I don’t see vegan alternatives harming their understanding and possibly eventual transition to veganism.

What I say is specific to imitation where “vegan alternatives to animal products” involve everything.

Okay, if your opinion is that some vegan alternatives to meat ( like Beyond Meat’s products, etc) is okay, but we shouldn’t keep seeking to have vegan alternatives to every type of meat, then I do tend to agree out of the principle that there are more pressing matters we can be spending that effort on. I also do see how an obsession to replicating animal products of that extent can harm animal rights discourse.

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Okay, if your opinion is that some vegan alternatives to meat ( like Beyond Meat’s products, etc) is okay, but we shouldn’t keep seeking to have vegan alternatives to every type of meat, then I do tend to agree out of the principle that there are more pressing matters we can be spending that effort on. I also do see how an obsession to replicating animal products of that extent can harm animal rights discourse.

Oh this, we understand now each other. :'3

BTW, I think this is the more polite and quiet discussion I have had.

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BTW, I think this is the more polite and quiet discussion I have had.

Thanks. I try my best to accomplish that.

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Hearts of palm are really versatile, its worth looking up if there’s a recipe that imitates crab.

@Slatlun
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Definitely, I could see some combination of hearts of palm, green jackfruit, gluten, and tapioca making a stringy thing that binds together if you mix and steam it. Vegan fish sauce and/or nori for oceany flavor. Crunchy? Maybe fry it.

@OhScee
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There’s a type of mushroom I’ve eaten recently called a Lobster Mushroom. Honestly shocked at how similar the flavour was, especially after lightly frying in a bit of veg butter. You’re going to want to cook and consume almost immediately after buying it though, otherwise it starts to lose some of that strangely crabby/lobstery flavour and become tough.

@yxzi
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here’s another idea, try any reddish color mushrooms, their texture should be somewhat similar

@AgreeableLandscape
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I just found this video which is kind of what I’m going for: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=NgUwuVlRYIc

@tracyspcy
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Honestly, looks like spoiled 1st world people have yet another caprise, now they want greens to look like crab meat and taste like it… As for me, such manipulations lead to more resources waste, than simple catch and consumption of crabs.

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