Holy fuck its bad

its really fucking bad

  • Soviet Snake
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    351 year ago

    Fucking collpase, fucking collapse already, your whole country is worthless, you just bring suffering to the world, fuxking kill yourself already.

  • Water Bowl Slime
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    291 year ago

    It’s appalling how I’ve heard absolutely nothing about this from any mainstream news outlets. Literally just Lemmygrad and independent journalists on YouTube. Anyone else think the balloon bs was pushed so hard as a distraction?

    • stasis
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      211 year ago

      yeah, there’s no way the balloon situation wasn’t used as a distraction

    • @knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml
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      211 year ago

      It was probably partly this, partly to save face on Blinken canceling his Beijing trip, and partly to distract from the Sy Hersh Nordstream exposé, maybe even to distract from Russian advances in Donbas. A lot has happened in the last two weeks.

  • @201dberg@lemmygrad.ml
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    271 year ago

    If we lived in an even remotely just society the heads of all these rail companies and their lobbyists would be stung up by their own entrails for this heinous shit.

  • @Mzuark@lemmygrad.ml
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    231 year ago

    I feel like it does need to be stated that major news orgs are talking about the derailment and the chemicals, CNN put up an article just today for example. Plus it’s been top trending on Twitter for like 4 days now. So any claim that no one’s talking about it is a lie. They haven’t raised the alarm and aren’t doing an hour by hour news cycle though.

    I expect we’ll see some more coverage if bodies start piling up though.

    • When I’m bored I would just go on Google and type in world news today, guess what, only the first day they mentioned Ohio had a train crash, every other day not a single mentioned of it on the front page. Everything is “Chinese spy balloon” and “not ruling out Aliens” with a few mention of Turkey and Ukraine in between. Not that no one is talking about it, but there’s an obvious effort in avoiding mentioning it in the MSM.

  • stasis
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    191 year ago

    this is absolutely terrible. i don’t understand how someone can look at this situation and how the us responded to it and not think that the us simply doesn’t care about american civilians

        • @OrnluWolfjarl@lemmygrad.ml
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          211 year ago

          They performed a “controlled burn” which is a stupid idea. Basically they wanted to avoid the substances leaking in the river, so they decided to turn it all into acid rain with a dose of toxicity. When vinyl chloride burns, it turns into chlorine gas (also known by its WW1 weaponization name, mustard gad). Chlorine gas, when mixed with water, turns into hydrochloric acid. Which then comes down with the rain and at these concentrations, it can utterly destroy marine ecosystems (can’t handle the pH - why all those fish were floating dead), soil structure (lowers fertility for years), and corrodes plants and trees severely. The real kicker is that vinyl chloride has a really low boiling point. So when you try to burn it, a good amount will not actually burn but it will evaporate (turn into vinyl chloride gas). This gas is heavy and will linger at high concentrations near the surface (where, you know, most living things, including humans, live and breathe). This is what makes for that low, thick, dense cloud cover over the area. This stuff is quite toxic, and people who work with it are meant to be exposed to under 1 part per million per hour to stay safe. So, you know… Great job whoever presides over this mess!

          And for the cherry on top. They later found out there were other, more toxic, chemicals in there that weren’t supposed to be burned.

          • They performed a “controlled burn” which is a stupid idea. Basically they wanted to avoid the substances leaking in the river, so they decided to turn it all into acid rain with a dose of toxicity.

            Let’s be real. They didn’t give a damn about that river either. They just wanted those mangled traincars off the track so Norfolk Southern could resume operations ASAP. The only thought which occurred to them was “what is the fastest way to get this thing out of here?” So they opted for the Florence, Oregon beached whale removal strategy.

  • SovereignState
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    131 year ago

    I know none of y’all are experts (or maybe you are, shout-out to the water purification specialist comrades) but… should I be drinking the tap water in IL rn? Should I be filtering it?

      • @knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml
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        191 year ago

        What’s the basis for that statement? I’m curious, as I’ve never had issues drinking from the tap in Canada/US/Europe. That being said maybe it is indeed prudent not to given the state of public infrastructure in those areas.

      • SovereignState
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        121 year ago

        Been conditioned in me that the fluoridation in tap water was important in maintaining healthy teeth and that only conspiracists and the naive used filters. But I’m definitely staying away from the (unfiltered) tap water for at least a while, maybe forever.

    • @DeHuq2@lemmygrad.ml
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      21 year ago

      I keep aquarium fish, and with them you cannot use tap water due to chlorine in it. You either have to let it air out for a couple of days or better yet, use a water conditioner. Its not going to kill you if you drink chlorine water, but i imagine it wouldnt be good for your health.

  • @SomeGuy@lemmygrad.ml
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    131 year ago

    It sucks that we can’t even trust the EPA completely as they lied about stuff like this before. Easiest example is 9/11 where they lied to first responders and residents saying the location was safe to be in when in fact it was still dangerous with many getting sick.

    EPA says its safe, but how trustworthy are they? They broke public faith really bad there and the trustworthiness of the government has only declined. Plus as far as I know there haven’t been any independent groups checking the water and air so the only data we have has a strong chance of just being lies.

    • @sub_ubi
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      141 year ago

      I was banned from hexbear for asking what the accusations against Virgil Texas were, shortly after he left the chapo trap house podcast (this was before it was all over twitter, I was genuinely curious.) No other issues or warnings prior to that.

      Also that entire fork from lemmy seemed counterproductive.

      • Yeah I was in a really bad mood and hadn’t eaten in a while. Lemmy is Hacker News levels of liberalism. Hexbear is Chapo subreddit longtimers. I am a testy mf and my familiarity with almost anything breeds contempt.