• @pinknoise
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    23 years ago

    5 of those are actually the same browser lol

    • @ZerushOP
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      03 years ago

      Not by much, although they use the same engine, but with this the similarities end.

      • @pinknoise
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        23 years ago

        although they use the same engine, but with this the similarities end.

        Thats by far the biggest part of a web browser isn’t it?

        • @ZerushOP
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          3 years ago

          Indeed, but it isn’t the only point which make the difference of functionality and performance. F.Exmpl. all of them, exept Vivaldi, make money with tracking APIs (yes, Firefox too, from Google and Alphabet inc, see Mozilla analytics with Blacklight*), Brave because its crypto currency APIs.), which rest bandwith, among other differences in architecture and optimization. If you see Vivaldi, you will see that it’s very different from any other, it’s more an productivity suite than a simple browser and currently used more and more also by Linux, in Feren OS include as default browser.

          OpenSource has many advantages over shared development for different products, but you cannot make the mistake of believing that OpenSource is synonymous with security and privacy, this has nothing to do with it. All APIs from Google, Facebook, MS, Amazon, etc. they are all FOSS and included in many other FOSS, also all rendering engines, Blink, Gecko y WebKit also are FOSS. For the normal user the only protection is to read TOS and PP (which nobody does) and the community behind the product, everything else about OpenSource is only interesting for developers.

          • @birokop
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            13 years ago

            Just because mozilla.org has analytics doesn’t mean the browser has. How does brave track with these “crypto apis”? Vivaldi isn’t even opensource, it could be tracking you as much as it wants.

            • @ZerushOP
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              3 years ago

              It don’t. FF don’t track the user, right, but if you sync your data, it use the Mozilla server and these track you. Vivaldi has a own server for sync your data, bookmarks, settings, etc, enrypted end to end. Vivaldi don’t have acces to these data, nor to the password you use. If you lost the password, you lose your data. Vivaldi can’t restore it. Jon von Tetzchner is the first against the user tracking to make money, long before Norway make a law against it (see other thread of this). Every browser, need money to pay servers and other costs, its irrelevant its FOSS or no, Vivaldi do this by links and search engines included by default (the user can delete them in the settings, if he want), merchandizing and donations, no by tracking like others do. FOSS is a good system for developers to share, collaborate and fork a product, that make sense in a new software which don’t exist before, but in a market with ~50 browsers and other 74 browsers which are discontinued, FOSS or no is irrelevant for the user, there only is important the TOS and the PP which it has. Complex internet suites like Vivaldi has a lot of very different licenses, all of them auditable, but part of the code (5%) of the UI has a patent from Vivaldi, but they permit the modification by the user, for su private use, but not the use by large companies, like Google or MS. Because of this Vivaldi isn’t pure FOSS, no for other reasons, but it hasn’t to do with Privacy or surveilling the user.