At first I was a bit skeptical about the 14/88 thing, admittedly it did sound like it could plausibly have been 2 random numbers of tanks(maybe it is anyways it doesn’t really matter tbh it’s still being used to defend a client state of Imperialism) but after seeing this comment, idk. This almost makes me double down as illogical as that sounds. The entire analysis is ridiculous and I almost thought it was a joke.

  • @SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml
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    261 year ago

    Yeah, I don’t think saying Azov is indistinguishable from the rest of the Ukrainian armed forces is helping them beat the Nazi allegations….

  • @ihaveibs@lemmygrad.ml
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    261 year ago

    Yeah, the official Twitter account of the Ukrainian military posting a video of Azov soldiers dipping bullets in pig lard to shoot the “Chechen orcs” is totally not something Nazis would do

    • ash! [she/her]
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      101 year ago

      Added context: Chechnya is predominantly Muslim, in Islamic law, consumption of pork is forbidden.

      Also, in the video, the person says: “Dear Muslim brothers. In our country, you will not go to heaven. You will not be allowed into heaven. Go home, please.”

    • @comradecarti@lemmygrad.ml
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      91 year ago

      Wait so Ukraine just casually and officially posted videos of them committing a war crime? Because that surely violates something in the Geneva convention

    • CMD
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      @ihaveibs @ButtigiegMineralMap Yeah, people on my side of fedi (that is, people you’d call “Nazis”) heard the dog whistles and just sort of ignored them.

      I’ve heard people say that they suspect that Azov acting that way - and having that be promoted - was an effort to get edgy Nationalists to sign up to go die for NATO as a kind of “two birds with one stone” thing. It didn’t work as intended, obviously.

  • Oh damn, he’s almost right.

    Except it’s the other way aroudn. Ukraine radicalized it’s non-extremist troops long ago and almost any Ukrainian formation is basically indistinguishable from Azov\Aidar\Tornado\Right Sector. That’s what rolling those early paramilitaries into national guard, police and army was all about. People from those were used for conditioning the rest.

    • ButtigiegMineralMapOP
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      121 year ago

      Damn, that’s actually a very good point, all the regular lib soldiers become fascists and white supremacists when it’s all they are surrounded by

  • JucheBot1988
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    221 year ago

    14: mental and physical age of my Nazi dragon waifu

    88: multiply by 1000 to get her actual age, because we NAFO people aren’t pedophiles, you sicko

  • @OrnluWolfjarl@lemmygrad.ml
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    191 year ago

    This is how propaganda works. Make a reasonable statement (the numbers are just a coincidence) to grab people’s attention and make them relax, then shoot them with a sleugh of bullshit. Then preemptively slander disagreements as lies, misguided opinions or propaganda themselves.

  • @big_spoon@lemmygrad.ml
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    191 year ago

    well…it’s just an unfortunate coincidence that they use the same symbols as nazis, they’re antisemitic as nazis and worship stepan bandera, who could be or not be a nazi collaborator

  • @redtea@lemmygrad.ml
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    171 year ago

    Take a look at these old fashioned weighing scales.

    Behold, one side is heavier than the other. It is lower than the lighter side.

    We can take weight off from the heavier side. The scales balance. Both sides would be at the same height.

    Or we can add weight to the lighter side. The scales balance. Both sides would be at the same height.

    But what we cannot do, is add weight to the lighter side, and watch it come into balance with the heavier side, while claiming that we took weight off the heavier side.

    Neither can we take weight off the heavier side, watch the scales balance out, while claiming to have added weight to lighter side.

    Two things may begin different and become indistinguishable. But their growing similarity, as an isolated fact, does not tell us which side changed.

    Edit: typo x2

  • 陈卫华是我的英雄
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    171 year ago

    Mathematically speaking, the more “coincidences” there are, the more likely that one of them is not a coincidence, and if one is not a coincidence, then that proves that the rest are not coincidences either.