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Dozenal, or base twelve, is a way to count that uses twelve digits instead of ten. A lot of people around the world prefer it over decimal for quite a number of reasons. This is a community for those people. 1. Be respectful, considerate, and do not support any kind of bigotry. Transmisia, homomisia, ableism, pluralmisia, triggered “”““jokes””“”, slurs and the like are not allowed. 2. Keep the safety of the community. Do not threaten any person or group of people and stay away from heated debates and agressivity. 3. Don’t post explicit NSFW content of any kind.

A community for people who enjoy using base twelve and prefer it over base ten

@X51
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The proper term for Base-12 is Duodecimal.

Katie Ampersand
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The problem with “duodecimal” is that it’s in base ten, which makes it unfitting for a community centered around replacing base ten

@X51
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I hate to break the news to you, but a “dozen” is defined as a “group of 12” which is also a reference to Base-10. You might need to come up with a new word that doesn’t reference Base-10. The inherent problem with switching to Base-12 is that we only have 10 fingers. If you switch to Base-12, 90% of the Earths population is going to be too stupid to count to 12. If we weren’t wearing shoes, I think people could figure out how to count to 20, but Base-20 would not have as many advantages as Base-12.

Katie Ampersand
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  • you can also say that a dozen is a group of 1100, does that mean that a dozen is a reference to binary? of course not, that doesn’t make any sense. just because you can use decimal digits to write a definition doesn’t make it a decimal-centric definition. duodecimal is decimal-centric not because of its definition, but because it’s literally “two(duo) ten(decimal)”

  • there are a lot of ways to count to 12 with only two hands. some with only one hand

@X51
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All the dictionary definitions of these words use Base-10 references. You need to rewrite the definitions and have them accepted into the human language globally if you want something that disregards Base-10. Personally, I think “Dozenal” sounds uneducated. The wikipedia redirects to Duodecimal. I am inclined to believe Base-12 does have many advantages over Base-10.

Katie Ampersand
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All the dictionary definitions for the word dozen say “a group of 12”, which isn’t decimal-centric at all. Like I said, being able to express a definition with decimal digits doesn’t make it a decimal definition. I could just as easily say that it’s “a group of 20”. The definition doesn’t change, it’s just that I’m using base 6 now. Does this mean that it’s a base 6 definition? No, it just means that I can use base six to express it

Anyhow, doesn’t seem like this is going anywhere lol. I guess it’s just a matter of which words you prefer

@pingveno
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I didn’t know there was a name for proponents of base 12 systems. There are dozens of us, dozens!

@testman
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I’m interested, what are some other similar / related systems.

I am aware of metric time (one day is 10 units of time) and tau (pi*2).

Well, probably some more, but I can’t remember them right now.

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I have my own base-16 time system I came up with https://fiftysix.scot/Base-16/Time , which I still need to finish.

freelikegnu
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Everything may end up base 16 anyway due to the digital paradigm pervading nearly every aspect of life.

@ksynwa
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Sorry if this is not the right place to ask this but why would someone prefer base twelve?

@testman
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Probably because same reason that day is currently split into 24 (12*2) hours.

12 is nicely divisible by 4 numbers (6, 4, 3, 2), while 10 is only by what, just number 5?

Katie Ampersand
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Ten is also divisible by 2

In base ten, you can tell when a number is divisible by 2, 5 and ten by looking only at the last number (if it ends on 2, 4, 6, 8, 0 its divisible by 2; if it ends on 5 or 0 its divisible by 5, if it ends on 0 its divisible by ten)

In dozenal, you can do this with 2,3,4,6 and twelve

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