Do you still actually *use* email?

It’s not that I am a youngster shunning it for snapchat or tiktok etc., but I have come to realize that I basically stopped using email, other than as a (bad) 2fa solution and notification service (and the odd mailing list).

Even at work it has become basically a pure notification service for the internal platform and a place to send the odd document or request to a 3rd party…

I realize that I am probably living in a bubble in that regard, but I actually recently met people reasonably tech affine who claimed they don’t even have an email address?!

So for a while I have been thinking of just configuring an one-way email to XMPP forwarding service (with auto-response) and be done with email ;)

How do you feel about email? Is it still important for your daily communication?

Edit: So a few days later I guess the summary is:

  • Many people still use it for work / unversity (only);
  • Some people still really use it a lot, but mainly as a “since everything else sucks even more” option;
  • Quite a few (but probably still a minority) are like me and effectively stopped using email.
@onlooker
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It’s true that email isn’t perfect, but it’s the one common thing me and my friends use. I would be very happy if everyone started using XMPP or Matrix, but that isn’t happening. Most people I know are too used to Facebook’s or Instagram’s ecosystem and I’m not about to meet them halfway and start using WhatsApp or something dodgy like that. So, email it is.

@yogthos
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I use it all the time as correspondence with friends. I find email is a really great way to discuss different ideas that you want to think through. I find writing things down forces you to think through them more than when you’re chatting with somebody in real time. So, it’s a really great medium for any thoughtful discussion.

@pingveno
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As creaky as email is, if you’re trying to send a message between two or more people it is one of the few universal forms of message sending these days. Everyone has their favored platform with some people swearing off platforms for one reason or another, but email is constantly available to everyone. And if someone gets excluded because they don’t have an email address - well, that’s kind of their problem. Very different from a platform like Facebook where there are legitimate reasons to not want to have anything to do with them.

poVoq
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Agreed, but my question was more about how often do you still really do or need that practically? For me that has become maybe once in a quarter year or so?

@pingveno
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Daily. During the work day, nearly hourly. Besides person-to-person communication, a lot of our backend systems at my workplace use it as an easy, cheap way to implement alerts.

poVoq
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Yes that is what I meant with “notifications”. I still have that a lot too, but that could be easily replaced with something else or forwarded to another service.

@pingveno
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While this is all true, email’s universality is a feature that no other service gets close to. It’s like English: it’s messy and there are better alternatives, but none of them have the same sort of crucial momentum.

@Echedenyan
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I use this mainly as a justification to use it as communication channel in school with classmates. Mostly, when I represent the classroom.

Everynyan is provided with one in school if they dont have one and most school communications happen there, the rest in the website.

@gabor
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I use email a lot both privately and professionally. I don’t think it’s obsolete at all. In email, I still adhere to several formalities (like Dear… and signing my name etc) which is I think a nice tradition and I also pay more attention to correct grammar and punctuation, full sentences etc. I think it should be kept as a channel of more formal correspondance. It is also decentralised by design which is great. With a few updated standards, strong e2e encryption could be built into the email infrastructure by default. I hope we will reach this at some point

@X51
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I use email. I hate sending texts.

Dessalines
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Same here, I only use it as a 2fa or for signup confirms, not personal communication. Pretty much all my friends use matrix, signal, or since I live in the US, facebook messenger.

mae
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As a university student I use email to communicate with my professors and the administration. Outside of that I use it to share files with other students, but that is by means of google drive links usually. Most other communication I do among the student body is over discord lol.

@TheAnonymouseJoker
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True, I use emails a lot less now. But it is still somewhat essential, I would say. Most of my communication happens on XMPP, Matrix, Discord, Signal, Telegram, and little on WhatsApp.

Good post, though, OP!

Tucumano 88
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I use email through Delta Chat 😁

Travis Skaalgard
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I regularly correspond with multiple people through multiple email addresses I use for various purposes. Literally all the time, lol.

@nour@lemmygrad.ml
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E-mail is my main means of one-on-one communication. For personal communications, only alternative that non-tech-affine people in this area use would be WhatsApp, which I don’t have and don’t want to get. I’m currently looking into alternatives to e-mail, but setting these up will take time, and it’ll be only with those few people who are willing to use an unfamiliar technology just to communicate with me… For paperwork I have to submit, e-mail is usually the expected way of submitting it unless you’re expected to go there and hand it in.

I’m actually quite surprised to see a question like this come up. poVoq, if you’d like to tell, what do you use instead of e-mail?

EDIT: Just saw mae’s comment. I also use e-mail to communicate with professors and the administration.

poVoq
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I am long out of University, but yes I have heard that email is still common there. For work related stuff there is the odd email (on an company account) here and there, but to my distress most communication has moved to MS-Teams & WhatsApp (on a company phone).

Privately I mostly use Threema/Telegram/Discord (forced to) and (by choice) XMPP/IRC with a bit of Matrix here and there if I can’t avoid it (but the latter seems mostly dead anyways). And I guess I could use Signal if I wanted.

@Phantom_Engineer
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It’s good for documents and such. It’s also the only federated service that’s universal.

Michael Mc Donnell
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I use email every day and I’m 38. I think most chat solutions suck because they do not integrate with each other. I’m excited about Delta Chat but I think it still has some way to go (I immediately ran into a couple of show stoppers).

@Echedenyan
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I am 21 :^)

kazutrash
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I’m 18 :0

Sandro Linux
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I am a youngster and use email all the time and don’t use snapchat or tiktok or instagram! I use session and signal for messaging and it does me well

@babylonianbasim
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I use email everyday (college student & undergrad research). Helps a lot when reaching out to people and corresponding with others

@Echedenyan
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Formarly: for classmates surveys, serious communication channel with some friends, teachers, companies, public institutions and issue report for any service.

Casual: with Delta Chat for some friends and projects.

Edited: I participate in mailing lists too.

Sandro Linux
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never heard of delta chat before but it looks cool because I have always loved email for all its flaws it is a great idea

Adda
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Delta Chat is amazing. It is definitely worth a try.

Sandro Linux
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cool just downloaded it

Frog of War
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Lately, or for the last few years for that matter, I’ve mostly just used email for work and to do confirmation emails. Occasionally I’ll be emailed something to print, as I have a printer hooked up to my computer and that seems rare these days. But, the last time I sent a “Greetings, How is it going friend” type email had to have been like… 2012?

Katie Ampersand
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I’ve only used it to contact people who I have had to find when I fall into whatever rabbit hole, but not really to communicate with friends. Like, just a few days ago I fell into a Z-SAMPA rabbithole and I used email to talk to the person who was my only source of information

@DBGamer
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I never really used it for communications but I could be gone with the doggo if I ditched it cold turkey. Seeing as online providers, stores and such still expects you to be notified that way.

Would be AWESOME if you could get push this way if you got a ticket updated, opened, your order been delivered and such though!

kazutrash
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i still use email as an universal communication channel for me, so i don’t to have many messengers at once. if anyone wants to talk with me, i just sent my address to them. ez.

also hosting an email server for myself has being an alternative, but i have no clue how to even start. I’m wide open to suggestions. VERY WIDE OPEN

Jakob
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i have my own email server. based on debian with dovecot (for imap) and exim. with the debian defaults you can even run a basic system for email.

there are pletiora howtos out there. just take a quite new one and try it for yourself.

but be aware, to not setup a spam-server… test it for open relaying.

running a email-server is quite easy. running a secure email-server is quite difficult!

@the_tech_beast
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No one sends me an email. Just some companies.

art
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Outside of work I only really use it for where there’s just to much to say in a text or has information that might be referenced more than once.

Other than that it’s basically just a glorified notification system.

@yxzi
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I often use e-mail to easily communicate between different devices, especially older ones, which don’t support flashy new apps. All you really need is an e-mail client to communicate with pretty much anybody, including older family members/people whose preferred way of communication is WhatsApp. The rationale here being that if they’re not willing to switch to a more privacy-friendly messenger, then make them at least use something that we can all agree on (gotta mention that some people don’t like writing an e-mail, but usually they’ll accept to using it for high priority stuff or just make a call directly). A big plus is having different e-mail addresses & aliases.

@SloppilyFloss
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So for a while I have been thinking of just configuring an one-way email to XMPP forwarding service (with auto-response) and be done with email ;)

How would you go about doing this?

poVoq
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Still looking for the best way, but there are some (old) gateway projects for it.

@Echedenyan
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There is a Delta Chat <-> XMPP bridge bot. And other with IRC.

Can be configured to be used with normal email.

@Danrobi
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e-mail is a scam!

@AlmaemberTheGreat
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@Echedenyan
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The email client can support tree ordering for replies too.

You can use both.

@AlmaemberTheGreat
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