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@je_vv
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I’m wondering what provides a better experience for non tech users, whether use Librefox, or try hardening Firefox. Several websites (bank accounts, media sites) don’t really work with the Arkenfox settings. Actually not even with the Librewolf ones (which don’t use all of the Arkenfox).

Perhaps just following some of the https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Firefox/Privacy, and using uBlockOrigin + localCDN…

The same goes to Mul for Android, instead of just Fennec…

Werwolf
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I made the guide trying to achieve the best protection as possible, so everyone could choose the perfect level of protection for themselves.

I recommended an add-on for those sites that break so you can temporarily turn off certain privacy features and make they work: Privacy Settings https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/privacy-settings/

@je_vv
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It was not a complain, actually I always learn something new when there are new posts about privacy, :) I was not aware of localCDN for example… What I mentioned is just that I’m still looking for how to better help people who don’t actually investigate or tweak things. In my case, I maintain gnu+linux boxes for some relatives, and besides taking time from me, if something doesn’t work, they just drop it for something that does, at least in their minds… So I’m still wondering about how to better balance things. I found librewolf having a text cfg somehow easy to compare when versions change, and not having to go through individual configs on a gui (way slower), though it still takes time, even when librewolf came up with user (not system) level overrides (if you want system level changes they don’t help, and if you want FF default values, then you need to comment out the system ones any ways)…

What I mean, I really appreciate privacy and security guides, one always get to learn new stuff from them. What I do wonder at times is just what’s the right balance to minimize the time invested and to make default things really working for most sites and with enjoyable performance still… I guess that as well is a never ending quest, and a really time consuming one, hehe

@ajz
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@je_vv
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I see, you imply that rather than hardening FF, or make LW less hardened, then use both… Might be. LW as it is though, might feel with lower performance given its default settings, and I’m not sure how that plays for users in general… As for me, I’m trying to use LW exclusively, and I change several options to make it really usable for me, :)

@ajz
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@je_vv
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I re-enabled “do not tack” even though using ublock origin, I do enable webgl although it’s considered non safe, I enable webrender, I re-enable safe browsing even though it leaks some info, I use libva for Xorg, I force HW accelaration, and so on. I don’t keep the original librewolf.cfg as to provide a diff… To access banks, I needed to remove the referer settings, I needed to change the block policy on media in order to watch some life office media events, besides having to disable some restrictions on media and webrtc…

With proton I had to figure out how to fix making text selected readable for dark themes (that’s broken once again by FF), and also got back compact mode, which although not LW exclusive, I added to the cfg file.

I think I figured how to update the cfg when LW upgrades, but it takes time… The arkenfox way even requires more settings since those limit more things than LW… So I’m not up to use them, but at times I’m wondering if the Arch light suggestions for privacy, plus ublock origin plus localcdn would be an enough compromise between privacy, usability and minimizing effort…

And for other users, if sites start failing, I doubt they’d like to experiment with options, and even less to try 2 or more browsers for different purposes… But I can’t talk for everyone, :)

@Reaton
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Nice Guide, I just added Arkenfox and tweak some parameters in about:config but now webpages don’t take the whole place and I don’t get which parameter would do that. Any idea ?

@birokop
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This looks like its preventing pages from identifying you with your specific resolution. You probably turned some setting on.

Werwolf
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I’ve done every step on the guide and this hasn’t happened on my browser. Idk if something changed on Arkenfox or anything. It looks like the Tor browser. It’s weird.

@Reaton
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I found the cause of this problem. I had somehow enabled privacy.resistFingerprinting.letterboxing which… puts the browser in letterbox format lol.

@Reaton
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After checking more closely, I found that it was Arkenfox that was enabling this (it was also disabling keyword.enable).

@federico3
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These are just a bunch of addons. This is far from enough. You need the Tor Browser.

A lot of patching needs to be done on the Firefox sources to mitigate browser fingerprinting, which is a privacy breach. Extensions don’t help nearly enough.

@SloppilyFloss
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This is the best way to enhance Firefox. I must remind you that our goal here is privacy. If you want to browse the web anonymously, I’d suggest you looking at Tor instead.

Werwolf
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Have you even read the article? The Arkenfox user.js makes a lot of work for use. And the last part of the article consists on a list with various about:config options that are recommended, separated in three level of privacy.

@federico3
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Yes and it’s not enough. Tor has been maintaining a number of patches for years to mitigate the problem of fingeprinting.

@ajz
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