Going along with the theme of this thread yesterday, the admin team here has decided to remove these two communities.
Not only are people getting tired of seeing cringe / reactionary content fill up lemmygrad, but it doesn’t create a very welcoming atmosphere for new people, or those wanting to sign up, to see a bunch of reactionary content / hate speech directed at you.
We don’t want to host that content, or make other people see it.
We’ll evaluate these cringe-type / reactionary-content communities on a case-by-case basis, to decide if they should stay or not. Feel free to comment any below that you think should probably be removed.
Stay vigilant comrades, and if you see too much reactionary content being posted to lemmygrad, report it and we’ll get to it as soon as we can.
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Now this brings up another point is, why we came to this trend?
Seems like all these “Shit reactionaries say” popped up because we are all around the same page in education of anti imperialist world view. There’s not too many new members coming in, and we haven’t much to debate/explain theory on since there’s not too many libs left. Thus out of our boredom we have resorted to this trend of making fun of reactionaries, instead of making any progressive gains.
So what should we do instead that is productive? Capital 101? maybe make posts explaining more regional movements?
Ideas?
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My main reason for coming to this site was learning more and also news from socialist countries. That why I liked the old GenZe sub. Sure it also did a lot of lib dunking but also had a good amount of news posts and discussions that helped me learn counterpoints to a lot of west propaganda.
It’s rough when you don’t know what to read or where to look for answers. It’s also not so easy to find time to sit down and really dig into a lot of literature. It’s part of why people like Grover Furr are so damn important. Need to make a statue of that comrade.
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I sometimes post stuff from KCNA, Global Times, Granma, etc, would be nice if more people did that
Thank you for doing that btw, we need more news / editorial type posts that we can talk about together.
No problem!
I think “what organizing/praxis have you done lately?” would be a fine community. Personally I haven’t had to chance to organize yet, but I have been planting seeds doubting liberal narratives in my peers. There could also be specifics about the nitty gritty of organizing.
I remember I touched on similar issues of communities in my, optimistic and very naive Club Hub phase after the great GZD migration.
Now for what other parts of being a communist, at first I was thinking why there weren’t any analysis of actually constructing socialism. But then I realized it’s probably due to Lemmygrad being in English and thus many many comrades are more concerned about actually achieving revolution, then constructing socialism post rev.
Maybe have different scenarios of how to radicalize libs? Problem is Lemmygrad has very few numbers for a forum site. What’s the progress of trying to federalize with Hexbear at?
Asking an open-ended question that you already have (some) answers to is a good way to get people talking.
Posting explainers about a subject is good because it benefits from a single author, prompting discussion about a subject is better because it taps into collective knowledge, prompting a discussion about a subject and then editing the opening post into a thread summary later gets the best of both.
Imo, reactionary vitriol should always be CW’d with the NSFW checkbox to blur it out, it looks too much like an endorsement otherwise, and it puts a lot of uncensored racism and homo/transphobic imagery in the TL.
A lot of those posts were starting to feel like low key promotions for the content. Not saying everyone posting that stuff was some infiltrator but it wouldn’t surprise me if there were more than a few fanning the flames. It really is ridiculous the number of those coms popping up.
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One of the ppl involved in posting a lot of this cringe, is a bit of an edgelord ultraleft, and likely very young, but genuine. At least in that case, I doubt they’re a fed, since a fed would likely just want to post illegal or violent content to try to get the site taken down.
We def gotta be on the lookout for infiltrators tho.
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If I remember correctly /r/genzedong did something in the lines of “Friday’s cringe posting” or something like that, which was the day allowed to post that kind of content.
In my opinion, I don’t have an issue with those posts because they make you see the façade under which liberals hide, but seeing them too often does make me a bit depressed because I have to constantly remember that those kind of people exist.
Lib cringe weekend
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piggybacking to remind people that the far-right only gains traction when they’re reposted.
Principled Marxists might not be swayed from their solid ideological ground when clowning on fascism, but new leftists can be. Especially the new leftists who’re within the scope of far-right propaganda (white, cis male, teen-20s) who haven’t yet fully embraced Marxist ideology. As well, reposting hateful content harms the communities the content is harmful towards. Marginalized people don’t usually want to see posts that were written against them, even if the post was reposted to make fun of it. The result of the “shit x says” communities could be repulsing those comrades. (note, communities like “Shit Liberals Say” are more annoying than harmful and are excluded from this statement, I’m talking about things like “Shit Fascists Say”)
If we’re going to share screenshots of fascist posts or redistribute fascist memes, we need to mark them NSFW and members need to be in the comments explaining why the content is harmful. If we fail to do our due diligence LG could become a leftist ➔ patsoc/nazbol pipeline, we don’t want that.
Noted.
Were thy reactionary? Nazbol one I could understand, but KKKCringe were too?
KKK Cringe was for generally bigoted stuff like racism, homophobia, etc.
This
so why is it gone now?
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Basically not needed as SFS already exists. Also the risk of 1) Scaring away marginalized newcomers, and 2) Accidentally breeding far right views through desensitization.
Basically it wasn’t needed since ShitFascistsSay exists. And as Arachno_Stalinist pointed out.
Hello, I’m the creator of both removed subs.
KKKringe was created to higlight cringe bigoted memes like CritcalResist8 pointed out like one I found about the happy merchant being real.
