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        So… “world peace” is just…? Google returns a phrase that it translates back into “peace in everything,” but the word does repeat in that phrase. I’m sure it’s a contextual thing and I know some things just don’t carry over between languages, but now I’m interested in how Russian works.

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            I think it would be one of those small things that constantly amuses me to the bewilderment of natives. One single letter stops this from being misread as “in everything, peace,” no? If even that?

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              Not really, that extra letter is a noun case, it serves grammar only. I guess the word all (всем) is what helps distinguish between the meanings here. It belongs to the semantic field of mir as in the world, while Russians don’t use it together with mir as in peace.

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          Much like Eskimo have 27 words for snow because they have so much exposure and have to denote subtle variations, Russians lumped a bunch of unused words together. World peace? Not in Russian!

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      The whole point was to get past the Cold War and make union between countries. MIR was peace; Americans and Russians working together for all mankind’s scientific progress

      Then came politics.

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    Wait, hold on, a fairly accurate map instead of just countries?

    Who’s the linguistics nerd that wanted to make a point about peace and empathy and the absolutely tragic loss of human life, but couldn’t resisit also making a little bit of a point about language diversity? Whoever you are, I see you.

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      It’s a lot better than most such maps, but still, there’s way too many languages missing in my opinion :)

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        I take little bit of issue having south part of Finland having swedish there.

        Edit: ok, the projection is bit funky here, that is not southern Finland (Uusimaa), but south west Finland (Varsinais-Suomi) which is conquered by Swedish Finns

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        I did say “a little bit of a point”.

        That’s the problem with giving it a fair shake, I suppose. You end up with nitpicking the remainder instead. It’s a natural impulse.

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          Yes, you’re right of course, but HOW COULD THEY EVEN MISS FRISIAN WHEN THEY EVEN INCLUDED SAMI pounds fist

          :P

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        As opposed to? I mean, yeah, a lot of the places marked here are bilingual and share a language with the surrounding environment, but it’s not like Spanish, Romanian or English aren’t captured here.

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    The Finnish word on the map is in the partitive case, the base form is “rauha” with just one “a” at the end.

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    The Dutch ”vrede” would translate to ”wrath” in Swedish. Just fyi

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    “vrede”, which means “peace” in Dutch, means “anger” in Danish (probably not pronounced the same way, but the spelling is the same.)

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      In English phonetics it’s pronounced vrayduh

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                I understand that you’re being mean out of frustration because your entire country is still suffering from that throat disease you call a language, so I’ll let these little jabs slide, but it’s not a healthy way to deal with it. Best wishes from Denmark🤗🥔🥔

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              Als iemand Deens kan kunnen ze toch afleiden dat dit dan waarschijnlijk die andere taal is die ze vernoemden… Zo’n droge “no” gaat er wel over 😄

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                Ja, maar je moet wel bedenken dat dit het internet is en dat mensen niet heel hard nadenken voor dat ze dinges schrijven :P

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      For me, it’s like if it means freedom or frieden in German…

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      In serbian “spokojno” means peaceful as in quiet. Other variations are of death though, “pokojnik” is a dead person.

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      In russian it means same. I wonder of polish have second word, because pokoy(pokój) is another kind of peace in russian.