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Even been seeing some people on /r/genzedong against US and Canadian decolonization recently.

@T34@lemmygrad.ml
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Hell yes! The problem isn’t just Israel, its 5 centuries of white supremacist imperialism. It’s Western Europe and its white settler states genociding or enslaving 100 million people, stealing 3 continents, and using their plunder to attack everybody else.

@ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml
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Imagine sitting at the foot of the throne of the central nexus of global anticommunism and gatekeeping socialism with vague definitions of authoritarianism.

@gun
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What does Palestinian or Indigenous sovereignty mean?

Muad'Dibber
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Sovereignty means control / right to govern an area. For example for the US and Canada, you can use this map to see what peoples controlled areas that the european colonialists conquered.

@gun
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What does that look like in practice? Is there a good source to read more about this?

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Neither of those things should happen. What would that even look like? Palestinians/American Indians are the only ones allowed in government? Jews/old world descendants leave the region? It’s ridiculous. We need reparations and concessions, but not returning sovereignty, whatever that means.

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reparations and concessions maintain the settler colonial power structure, decolonization works to dismantle it. you are ridiculous. the point is that usa and isreal are still actively colonialist and carrying out violence against the people who were here first

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Yes and I would advocate against colonialism. I would not advocate for “returning sovereignty” to all the land that was stolen by parents or grandparents and beyond. That’s what returning sovereignty sounds like. I don’t know if that is the intended meaning. There are people who believe that, for example, Israel should disband, Jews should leave the area or become subject to Palestinian rule, etc. I don’t advocate that.

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its not your fault that there is a significant amount of propaganda trying to convince you that capitaists deserve the things they have.

i see you are a nonviolence poster. consider the violence carried out by colonizing (USA, Israel) militiaries, or structural/systemic violence like depriving civilian populations of basic necessities.

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I don’t think “capitalists deserve what they have”, and I’m not clear on how that could be inferred or is even relevant to the conversation. I absolutely recognize the violence that has been carried out by the USA and Israeli states. I am merely advocating against removing Jews from the Middle East or foreign descendants from the Americas…amazing that that’s controversial.

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this is vorgle btw sorry lemmur made me do it

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