Matthew Garrett pushed a malicious ‘feature’ (antifeature) of Microsoft and now we all pay for it; instead of working to remove the restrictions, Garrett is nowadays working hard to remove RMS (the messenger)

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What a load of bullshit. You can, in fact, install the new Ubuntu versions and flavours, it’s just the upgrade path that isn’t there yet – which is actually quite common. LTS releases even wait for the .1 release before enabling upgrades.

There are two sides of SecureBoot: The “MS is the only CA” side and the “You can have measured and signed boot”. The former is, unanimously, agreed to be bad. But this isn’t something the Linux community can protest by not allowing for the latter to happen.

The latter is actually a really great addition wrt security. Your full disk encryption is shite when you pass borders, if you don’t sign your system binaries. Travelling, at least before Covid, wasn’t that uncommon, I’ve heard.

All the cases where the FBI is whining about not being able to unlock iPhones? It’s because Apple uses a combination of signed, attested boot and encryption. Do we really want a Linux which is less secure than your average smartphone? Or even a fucking Windows?

This “problem” here affects those who want to upgrade now. But this group is also capable to deactivate SB or custom-sign the shim. All regular users don’t care and upgrade when it’s ready.

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I’m not concerned about the ubuntu issue. I’m sure it’ll be figured out.

I’m concerned about HW being locked out to a particular cert, otherwise not working. Whatever things MS has done in the past, didn’t prevent HW to be able to be used with an entirely different OS. I hope that doesn’t become the norm/trend for most consumers HW, and only things like surface or MS specific HW, which is still sad in the end, since the HW might be attractive for non MS users as well…

I’m worried about that as well, but blaming mjg59 is just FUD.

poVoq
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Wow, is there actually a version of this that is readable on a standard 2021 desktop browser? Seems like this website is stuck in 1999 :(

As for the topic itself: AFAIK secure boot can be just turned off in the bios, no? Maybe this is an issue on dual-booting systems where you can’t turn it off because of Windows? No idea, as all my PCs are Windows free since many years ;)

@AgreeableLandscape
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Wow, is there actually a version of this that is readable on a standard 2021 desktop browser?

I’d take this over a shitty single page web app that needs JavaScript from five different CDNs to render at all any day.

@je_vv
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It seems something new, ubuntu using MS certifates for secure boot on 21.04 release (apparently not allowing installing anything else than official ubuntu, not sure if able to disable secure boot or not, though this is just my interpretation, since the article is not that clear). Also, what seems more serious is new ARM based computers to be sold with windows, which won’t be able to disable secure boot at all, and this seems really bad if one wants to try ARM based computer rather than X86 ones, :(

poVoq
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Yes, if those ARM based laptops come locked to Windows that would be seriously bad. But I hope they will not get much traction against Chromebooks which luckily are quite open.

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Surprised to find websites like this one still around today. I like them a lot
Not every one has the resources of googles to keep up with tech trends these days. On firefox go to View > Zoom > Zoom Text only
then zoom-in to make the text bigger

poVoq
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These days it is actually easier to just add a css framework to your html only page and get a responsive website out of the box.

@dragonX
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It doesn’t work like that believe me every thing has to be rethought from the ground up , then recoded.
you can’t just make a website show properly on mobile without changing most of its layout.

poVoq
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Remaking a html only page is not that hard, and adding Bulma CSS framework to it is super easy.

poVoq
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Thats not really better. I am mainly annoyed by the super tiny font and the super narrow width, making the website look like it was designed for 640x480 CRT screens. Almost impossible to read on a 14" full HD laptop screen.

Use Reader Mode if you have Firefox.

@Peter1986c
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I think the article (mostly) referenced (sub)notebooks,tablets and tablet/(sub)notebook hybrids. With desktops, it may depend on whether you have an OEM or retail mainboard (I am not 100% up-to-date on that).

poVoq
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Ahh, yes those have been a mess from the start. 32bit bootloader with 64bit OS and similar shenigans. Was always better to stay clear of those when trying to run Linux. Regular ultrabooks always ran fine though.

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@AgreeableLandscape
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Microsoft being shitty to competing operating systems? GASP!

“Libre software” means software that respects users’ freedom and community. Roughly, it means that the users have the freedom to run, copy, distribute, study, change and improve the software.

In particular, four freedoms define Free Software:

The freedom to run the program, for any purpose.

Placing restrictions on the use of Free Software, such as time ("30 days trial period", "license expires January 1st, 2004") purpose ("permission granted for research and non-commercial use", "may not be used for benchmarking") or geographic area ("must not be used in country X") makes a program non-free.

The freedom to study how the program works, and adapt it to your needs.

Placing legal or practical restrictions on the comprehension or modification of a program, such as mandatory purchase of special licenses, signing of a Non-Disclosure-Agreement (NDA) or - for programming languages that have multiple forms or representation - making the preferred human way of comprehending and editing a program ("source code") inaccessible also makes it proprietary (non-free). Without the freedom to modify a program, people will remain at the mercy of a single vendor.

The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help your neighbor.

Software can be copied/distributed at virtually no cost. If you are not allowed to give a program to a person in need, that makes a program non-free. This can be done for a charge, if you so choose.

The freedom to improve the program, and release your improvements to the public, so that the whole community benefits.

Not everyone is an equally good programmer in all fields. Some people don't know how to program at all. This freedom allows those who do not have the time or skills to solve a problem to indirectly access the freedom to modify. This can be done for a charge.
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