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The motivation behind the project is to provide a native desktop app for Matrix that feels more like a mainstream chat app (Element, Telegram etc) and less like an IRC client. - Latest Release Downloads - Website - Github

nheko - A desktop client for Matrix using Qt and C++17.

@iortega@lemmy.eus
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I have tried it, and I must say it works pretty well. Of course the are still some things mssing but well, it’s fine. The dark theme is something I don’t like too much (not enough contrast sometimes), but well, again it’s fine.

Dessalines
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Thanks for making, nheko is my favorite desktop client. I think its the only one with e2ee support too.

@kind
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Ya, it’s insane how Qmatrixclient still has no E2EE…

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Or even Fractal, which has been around longer than many, still doesn’t have e2ee.

Hm, is Matrix the “right” platform for an IM though? Due to it being a cloud messenger it’s inherently not really private (although it can be anonymous). I use Matrix for those things that IRC or Jabber/XMPP would have solved back then, and also for Mailinglist lime things.

Sure, we have E2E but the messages are stored on all servers taking part in the conversation…

@levity
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Matrix is a protocol, like xmpp or irc, not a platform like slack or telegram.

either you trust the crypto or you dont- crypted messages propagate to unintended recipients in many other contexts, what matters is who has the keys.

Well, yes and no. Matrix is a protocol, yes, but it manifests as a cloud messenger, meaning all the messages are stored on all servers taking part in the conversation. Yes, if you use E2E, these messages are encrypted – but that’s by far not enough for these conversations to be considered “private”.

So no, keys matter much, but they aren’t everything.

What we need (and they seem to be working on this, as they do actually acknowledge the weaknesses of Matrix!) is true peer-to-peer conversation.

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