Should I be aggressively vegan? Should I isolate myself from all my non-vegan friends which equals all my friends? Should I kill over veganism? I feel complicit but I don’t want to lose all my friends. Should I get over it?

  • khaonuts
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    4 years ago

    you should stop being a nazi that spams the internet with harmful shit, i found all of you, so its really already too late

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      4 years ago

      I get the impression this person is very young and trying to find their way in the complex world of having ethics.

      I’m still considering this person in good faith and that they aren’t concern trolling at this moment, but time will tell.

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    4 years ago

    the veganfreak podcast said it best IMHO, primarily you need to be a healthy and happy vegan , you need to present to people a positive vision of what being a vegan might be like to them, it needs to be something they could see themselves doing. Be happy, be excited about what you eat , share that with others. I know billions of animals get murdered each day and we need to stop that but I think the slow game I laid out above is the only real way.

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    4 years ago

    Yes, you should get over it. Let me elaborate. Once you have enough strong beliefs (which you certainly should), the stress of the terrible things happening in the world around you will weigh down on you and can even be psychologically damaging. For example I am very strongly opinionated about FOSS, veganism, anti-capitalism, environmentalism, anti-consumerism, and more. I don’t have the energy to worry about them, nor the time to solve any of them alone.

    The solution is not to let go of your opinions nor to dampen your emotions, but to remind yourself that there is a limit to what you can do, but that by being vegan you have made a huge step in the right direction and are setting and example for others. Your presence, without a word, causes people to question their own action in a positive way.

    All that said, given the opportunity, such as if someone questions or challenges you, take it and speak your mind.

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      4 years ago

      yea exactly this, I’ve been vegan a long time, it takes alot of patience and slow education of others in my experience.

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    4 years ago

    as much as I’d like it to be this way, bullying irl doesn’t work very well, activism is typically more effecient

    this doesn’t mean that you should be the “pick me vegan”, who constantly tries to seek validation from omnis by telling them that you’re a “chill” vegan and it’s a personal choice or some other nonsense

    be assertive, but don’t just pointlessly insult, not that ominis don’t deserve insults, but hostility generally turns people away; ask them how do they feel about all the suffering that they cause, try the analogy with pets and “other” animals

    little things like calling “meat” of certain animals “flesh” or pieces of <animal> can elevate their disgust over time

    also, you probably need to know the basics before you confront people, so that you are easily able to refute their arguments that a non-knowledgeable in that area person might come up with on the spot

    even there is no such thing as a veganism for health or environment, you could use these arguments, i.e. how vegans live a decade longer on average, have significantly lower rates of diseases like certain types of cancer, diabetes, atherosclerosis, cardiac diseases etc, tell them how incredibly inefficient animal agriculture is etc

    but, as others mentioned, it depends a lot on the type of relation that you have with these people, you need to adjust your strategy on the fly, it’s different for every person, also it’s much easier to start gradually and then pile up…

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    3 years ago

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  • randon@lemmy.161.social
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    4 years ago

    you probably want to read ‘beyond beliefs’ by melanie joy.

    communicate with your friends if their behaviour makes you feel uncomforable.

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      4 years ago

      Thanks for the recommendation!

  • Tim
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    4 years ago

    Yes, get over it. Being “aggressively” anything is counter-productive.

  • Nova Ayashi@reddthat.com
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    1 year ago

    Approaching veganism like a religious person who goes around verbally spamming people is the most cringe and bad thing you can do

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    1 year ago

    Aside from Weird Al, is there any other kind of Vegan? Please continue to educate me about my meat sins while feeding your pet cat carrots until it goes blind so no animals are harmed. It’s the only way I will learn.

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    4 years ago

    No you should not. You should be understanding of your people and your people should be understanding of you. You might change your mind one day. You might become intolerant to soy in your later life - my wife did. The world is a complicated place and your feelings should not be used to make decisions like this. This is an opinion you have that has very little “meat” to back it up. At this point in your life, it’s a choice that is not more noble than that of the 100% meat eater. What if you develop an allergy to certain foods? There are virtually zero allergies to meats compared to plants. People do need to take advantage of this for mere survival sometimes. Don’t judge, you will be happier and people will be happier with you.

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    4 years ago

    It helps to see your enemies as victims, who are not as in control of their habits as you are, for whatever reason. Just imagine, if a child didn’t have the right idea, you wouldn’t scream at it, but patiently try to convince it by spreading the facts.