• @Stoned_Ape
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    21 year ago

    This is like digital lens flares and digital chromatic aberration for cameras. Scientists worked hard to get rid of it, and people just add it back in. :D

    • Helix 🧬
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      Why would lens flares and aberration be gone in digital cameras? It’s a flaw of optical systems, not of sensors, right?

      • @Stoned_Ape
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        11 year ago

        In pretty much any consumer hardware it’s now gone, and it has been gone in the movie world for a rather long time. Every lens flare you’re seeing in pretty much any movie since the last 2-3 decades is added in digitally.

        Chromatic aberration, digital film grain and other things like VHS tape effects are similar.

        • Helix 🧬
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          11 year ago

          In pretty much any consumer hardware it’s now gone, and it has been gone in the movie world for a rather long time. Every lens flare you’re seeing in pretty much any movie since the last 2-3 decades is added in digitally.

          Why would it be gone if lens flare is a part of having lenses? Did cameras stop having lenses now? What you mean is probably that filmmakers started using techniques like lens hoods and outdoor studio lighting with very small apertures to mitigate lens flares. Lens flares can’t just go away unless we stop using lenses.

          • @Stoned_Ape
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            Why would it be gone if lens flare is a part of having lenses?

            Dude. Because it was seen as a problem. Lenses that created lens flares were considered to be imperfect. Scientists worked hard to get rid of these optical imperfections. And they succeeded. Today, lenses pretty much don’t produce lens flares anymore. If you don’t want to have lens flares in your movie, there will be none.

            Are you suggesting that lens flares are a technical reality that never ever can be avoided, and never were avoided?

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              Dude. Because it was seen as a problem.

              Yes. But dude, it’s not “gone”, it’s just mitigated.

              Scientists worked hard to get rid of these optical imperfections. And they succeeded.

              No, they didn’t. This is a claim you made which I found no evidence for. Please provide a source if you want to continue making that claim.

              Are you suggesting that lens flares are a technical reality that never ever can be avoided, and never were avoided?

              Exactly. As soon as you have a phase shift (or multiple phase shifts, as with air -> glass -> air -> sensor) you will experience some kind of reflection/refraction. That means that as soon as you have multiple glasses in front of your sensor, you will experience some kind of lens flare.

              This situation might not produce the visible kind of artifacts that is lens flare, but you can’t trick physics. There’s glasses made by Zeiss which have a very good refractive index and there is some coatings which basically trap reflected light, but these still scatter light to the point you need a lens hood.

              On the other hand, Zeiss even makes their ZEISS Supreme Prime Radiance Lenses which are tailored specifically to produce lens flare. I doubt they include a chip which adds this in post ;)

              • @Stoned_Ape
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                You see, it’s obvious that you felt at least a little bit stupid while writing this. You disagree for the sake of it, and to be honest: I don’t think you’re stupid enough to not have realized that you answered your own questions and actually made my point.

                But you still wrote it all and then actually sent it. I hope you’ll be able to avoid being like this later in your life. Because you will upset people if you are like that in real life, and you will suffer from that.

                • Helix 🧬
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                  11 year ago

                  Thanks for the ad hominem and confirming that you have no proof for the claim that lens flare is somehow gone when it’s clearly a physical phenomenon you can’t (or don’t want to, for artistic reasons) eliminate.

                  I also already disproved your claim that

                  Every lens flare you’re seeing in pretty much any movie since the last 2-3 decades is added in digitally.

                  As there are lenses specifically designed to create lens flares which are in use by several movie productions.