jan teko
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and that is why i use open source things.

@ClosedGL
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My first thought upon reading the title:

It was always spyware

…why are you acting so surprised?! We have known this all along after all… firefox gang here BTW.

@yogthos
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Yeah I switched to FF a few years ago precisely because of that, and would never touch Chrome again.

@Lightbritelite
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I only use chrome to watch internet videos illegally. Ublock doesn’t seem to block all i need in firefox, unless that’s changed

@someone
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Donate

…ah, so that’s what this is. Umm… no, I don’t think I will.

@QueenPriscilla
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@TheAnonymouseJoker
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I believe you forgot the /s

@QueenPriscilla
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@TheAnonymouseJoker
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Poor child. It is surprising that you even exist on a discussion website in 2021.

@QueenPriscilla
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@QueenPriscilla
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RED Vulpix
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Brave’s creator is a homophobic ass, for one.

Bilb!
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That’s fair, but not really a privacy concern.

@TheAnonymouseJoker
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It is an ideological concern, and nanonymity is indeed political in nature.

Source?

@QueenPriscilla
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@southerntofu
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Breathe and cool down, the world is not falling apart just yet… though that’s coming sooner or later. Did you invest significant resources into Brave or other cryptoscams? If so, are you willing to run the bet, knowing it’s a pure speculation game and there’s more chances you’ll loose your investment than make a fortune? Otherwise, can you get out of the system easily and without loosing too much?

We all make bad decisions sooner or later. It’s even easier to make bad decisions when we’re bombarded by contracting information, especially advertisement (and Brave has been really active on that front). You should not hate yourself for making a bad call, but learn from your mistake so you don’t repeat it.

In a capitalist society, there’s no such thing as free money. Investments is only profitable if you have enough millions to diversify your investment ; for people like you and me, it’s mathematically-ensured we’ll loose (almost) everything. Remember when 1929 was the biggest and last crisis because the system would become more resilient? Yeah they’ve been playing that card for that long, if not longer…

Anyway don’t hesitate if you have more questions, and don’t trust advertisements for revolutionary concepts in the future. “The revolution will not be televised” said the revolutionary slogan. A modern take on it could be “The revolution won’t be advertised”. Take care

@QueenPriscilla
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poVoq
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Has always been?!

@DrKozaky
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IngrownMink4
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Luckily there are projects like Ungoogled Chromium to avoid this kind of thing :persevering face:

RED Vulpix
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Aren’t the devs of Ungoogled Chromium adamant that removing all Google telemetry is like whack a mole, and they’re never sure if they’ve gotten all of it?

IngrownMink4
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Honestly, I don’t know, but I have noticed that Ungoogled Chromium is lighter, safer and faster than Chrome and Vivaldi. That’s why I use it as a secondary web browser. Still, I only use it for sites that work only with Chromium. Normally I use Firefox Nightly (it’s the one that works best on my PC).

RED Vulpix
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Safer? How can you tell?

RED Vulpix
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very interesting!

@ufrafecy
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Firefox FTW 😎

@TheAnonymouseJoker
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*hardened Firefox

@someone
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@TheAnonymouseJoker
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Does a lot more than Chrome and its forks will ever do. The concept of opposition is clearly not understood here.

And do not even try to suggest webbrowser or NetSurf is superior to Firefox, because that is objectively false.

@someone
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@TheAnonymouseJoker
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You know Google thinks AMP, crippling ad blockers, drone bombing people, spying on people is alright?

@someone
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@TheAnonymouseJoker
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Do you remember the time when Yemeni families were bombed and experienced genocide at the hands of Google AI couple years ago? Yea no a corrupted hijacked Mozilla is not a bigger issue than that.

Also what ads? Are you telling me Booking.com text snippet on new tab page, that went away later, is an actual ad compared to Google crippling ad blocker APIs?

@someone
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@TheAnonymouseJoker
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You really think Mozilla, if it had the money, would assist in bombing people like Google does? WHOA.

@someone
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@TheAnonymouseJoker
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The reality is much more nuanced, and no, Google is not just merely a state puppet. It acts like a corporation government with its own GDP and budget.

Geotechland
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i gotta give apple credit. their software may be closed source but their privacy policy seems to be decent and is exposing all these data mining companies.

@yogthos
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It’s an artifact of them retaining a traditional business model where they sell you a product and you pay them money for it. Since they’re selling you a product they want you to have confidence that the product works in your interest. On the other hand, companies like Google is that they give stuff like Chrome to you for free and then make money mining your usage data. So the actual product ends up being your data and Chrome is just a tool for getting it out of you.

likescaptcha
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we dont know because its all closed off

@QueenPriscilla
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Unfortunately, there is no reason to believe this is anything other than industry giant Apple exposing competitors’ horrible practices to entertain their own reputation as a “”“premium”“”, privacy-respecting brand while keeping all your data to themselves (when they’re not busy giving it away to U.S. intelligence agencies).

Travis Skaalgard
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“basically”

“at this point”

samuraikid
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@yogthos
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ah so it is

samuraikid
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For Apple lovers don’t yet say thanks on apple, Steve Jobs used to use Android instead of iphone just saying

@yogthos
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My view is that only open tech is worth getting invested in. It’s important to recognize that no matter how good a company might be sooner or later their business incentives will no longer be aligned with your interests.

samuraikid
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I agree with you, and thus a rooted Android doesn’t put limits on something that is yours (I mean bought with your own money)

@yogthos
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There’s still a problem with you having to root it though. I’m really hoping Linux phones like PinePhone get to the point where you can run most popular apps on them.

samuraikid
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It’s all misinformation about root being dangerous etc etc don’t you have root acess on your linux machine ?

On your Android phone without it you simply can’t remove the bloatware, crappware manufactors use to track you with apps that you’ll never use and can’t open but still they are installed on your phone

@TheAnonymouseJoker
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My entire smartphone non root guide is based around how you can do this: https://lemmy.ml/post/54596

Also, having root and unlocked bootloader normally all the time is VERY BAD for security. Anyone could flash malware on your phone and hide it away.

samuraikid
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like in windows dont install shi*

@TheAnonymouseJoker
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Unfortunately there is plenty of non shit that can also be a problem. That non shit is called closed source software, and most people happen to need it to live and earn.

samuraikid
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Closed source has nothing to do with malware and root, there are plenty alternatives people just go for the convenience what is sad

@TheAnonymouseJoker
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Is the point of technology not making lives easier? Just putting forth a question.

samuraikid
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i guess not control control control

@TheAnonymouseJoker
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Error has been encountered. You are now stuck in a controlled loop. RIP

samuraikid
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with control control control i mean tech that is being developed AI , biometrics will be used against us civilians by govs and corps stay tuned

@TheAnonymouseJoker
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I know. I keep posting this stuff and stay on top of these events, like the Yemen drone bombing. Chances are if you see that Wired article link, it is posted by me or shared from me.

@yogthos
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Yeah the problem is that phones are being treated as appliances and they’re locked away from the user. So you’re really hacking around that when you root it. I imagine eventually it’s not even going to be possible to root phones since most people don’t really care if the option disappears.

samuraikid
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ahaha even s20 from samsung is already rooted mate

@yogthos
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My point is that people are actively working around the fact that the device is locked from the user by default. For now you can still root them easily enough, but that can change in the future. It’s also a fundamentally shitty situation to be in. Even after you root, getting OS updates becomes problematic as they can revert your phone back to being locked. You’re not really meant to be in control of the phone.

I want a phone that’s open by design and I don’t want to jump through hoops to use it the way that suits me.

samuraikid
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But I am in control of my phone :) has i said something i bought with my own money

samuraikid
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People down vote without understand shi* nice QQ

@Niquarl
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Where do people get this information? In the Appstore? How does one see it. I can’t find it anywhere

@yogthos
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can see it here under “App Privacy” section https://apps.apple.com/ca/app/google-chrome/id535886823

@Niquarl
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Thank you.

@marcosg
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