Kinetix
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Here’s what I’ve got:

1 Gbps up 1 Gbps down No data transfer max

Incoming ports blocked.

poVoq
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Arg, that’s even worse :(

You could tunnel everything to a VPS, but for most purposes you can then just run your stuff on the VPS itself.

Kinetix
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Yeah, and I do tunnel some things via VPS to my home network, but it would be pointless to try and run anything production like that. The VPS then gets a double-whammy on the bandwidth, if nothing else.

@Echedenyan
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Don’t forget to use Stunnel or P2P VPNs like N2N for that.

@Echedenyan
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Most companies here are providing new contracts with CGNAT.

Kinetix
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Gross… why can’t they just get with IPv6?

samuraikid
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ipv6 is a privacy nightmare on general

Kinetix
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Lol… that’s a ridiculous blanket statement. Please, explain yourself.

samuraikid
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But what about privacy?

The division of address space between global registries can provide information about the location of an address as well as its originating device. There are many IPv6 address assignment methods available, including DHCPv6, SLAAC, and Manual assignment.

DHCPv6 or the Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol version 6 is a protocol for configuring IPv6 hosts with IP prefixes, IP addresses and other configuration settings needed to operate in an IPv6 network.

IPv6 hosts can also use stateless address auto-configuration (SLAA).

Such auto-configuration on the basis of the MAC address is a particular privacy concern for mobile devices such as laptops and phones.

The MAC address of the device always stays the same and so it’s basically the device’s ID. So, when you access the internet from a different location, the MAC address based identifier can be used to track the movement of a particular device. It also provides the type of hardware used and allows logging of user’s online activity.

This could have been done even before, but space was a major restriction. This lack of space forced the use of NAT and NAPT which provided a certain amount of privacy. While NAT cannot be considered a privacy solution by any mean, it does provide a layer of abstraction between network communications and the device to a degree.

This certainly increases user privacy since an outside viewer cannot distinguish what device made a particular request without deeper investigation beyond a NAT gateway. Now that IPv6 can provide more than 10000 trillion IP addresses for each human alive, we are looking at the future where each device on the planet has its own unique IP address.

That, together with the already huge problem of companies craving for our personal data so they can sell customer-specific ads becomes an undeniable concern. There was a report that an AI program assigned for tracking the buying habits of Target customers determined that one customer was pregnant and that person started seeing ads for baby products.

At first, it raised the eyebrows of many people, they even decided to contact the supermarket’s manager who kindly apologized, thinking that it was a bug. Only a month later the parents confirmed that their daughter actually was pregnant.

We don’t want such personal information leaked even though this case wasn’t as serious as many of them are. Implementation of IPv6 hasn’t solved any of our problems and judging by many critics, problems are getting worse with each day.

With IPv6 address space being so huge it reduces the need for address recycling. This allows agents to harness the certain characteristics of an IPv6 to mark a specific user and its fingerprint. This would allow tracking of an individual as soon as they get online, even further diminishing internet user privacy.

Kinetix
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Where did you copy & paste this drivel from?

If you believe IPv4 NAT gives you privacy, you’ve probably already lost. Neither IPv4 or IPv6 have privacy built in.

IPv6 nodes can (and typically do) use privacy extensions (RFC 4941) to prevent any tracking of their burned-in MAC address(es).

Your argument of vast IP space in IPv6 is actually a feature - you can change your IP address millions of times obscuring the per-IP tracking you think one must be bound to.

Dynamic MAC addresses are build in to Android and IOS, maybe read up on those (but again, IPv6 can use privacy extensions where you believe the MAC would otherwise potentially be exposed).

What about the Target tracking & bean-spilling case had anything to do with the underlying IP version?

There’s plenty about IPv6 that is less than spectacular, but privacy concerns would certainly be no greater than under IPv4.

samuraikid
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If you had read right I didn’t answer that, I said nothing good for nat While NAT cannot be considered a privacy solution by any mean

Ipv4 doesn’t link your mac adress of the device to your ip is what i mean with that “drivel” you say so

Kinetix
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Kid, you’re stepping all over your own points. Your own words were also “…the use of NAT and NAPT which provided a certain amount of privacy.”

You missed the point about privacy extensions in IPv6.

Either way, you’ve made no point that suggests IPv6 is any better or worse than IPv4 in regards to privacy. It’s also not the point or function of IPv4 or IPv6. Your original comment about IPv6 being a privacy nightmare has no basis in reality.

samuraikid
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Its true something that can track your device across multiple locations where you connect is a privacy nightmare make your own search you’ll be surprise

Kinetix
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I’m sorry, you need to go learn a bit about the IP stack and really try hard to not spread misinformation. That was the whole point of why I replied - you’re making claims you just can’t back up with any kind of reasonable argument.

You’re being tracked while on IPv4 as it is, so please, stop with any claims that IPvWhatever is going to be any better or worse for you in this regard.

@strubbl
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at least 100. i have gbit down and 40mbit up

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