@PureTryOut
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Running Element in a browser on your PinePhone, really? I wonder why that is worth reporting, of course it works. If the cameras work, such applications will work.

Also I wonder why that post mentions you have to install Element on a webserver yourself, I’m pretty sure you can just use pre-hosted instances like https://app.element.io

@linmob
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It’s worth reporting because previously the camera usually would just work in a few camera apps like Megapixels, but not in other apps, e.g. in the web browser for Jitsi. I agree that you can most likely just use https://app.element.io and the important part are the env variables in the Firefox launcher + the recent Megi kernel.

@kevincox
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There are also very few web-based chat apps that work well on a mobile display. Most services require you to install the app to access on mobile. (Although you can get the desktop interface by changing your user agent) So sure, it isn’t the most exciting thing but it is cool to know that you can access Matrix from anywhere as long as you have a web browser.

@je_vv
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Aren’t there element.io and axolotl (signal) clients that can do audio/video calls on pine phones? If not, then what people say is totally true, that pine phone isn’t ready as a primary phone device.

poVoq
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Since when did video-calls become a requirement for a “phone device”? Regular audio-calls obviously work fine, but not all closed garden apps have proper mobile ready linux clients.

@je_vv
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Perhaps not a requirement, but an almost de facto need from most users on current pandemic times. If there was no need, then element.io and signal wouldn’t have rushed into supporting it the way they do now (element.io supports more people in single video conference but it’s not e2ee secured, rather using webrtc encryption, and signal started supporting only 4 people, and the number has increased).

@southerntofu
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Personal anecdote: i have very rarely seen a person make a video chat with a phone. I have seen a few video conferences for work/non-profits from a desktop computer, but not a single person i know would consider video-calls a feature/requirement when considering a phone. In fact, most people i know (even if not especially the least-technical ones) explicitly put a sticker on the cameras to avoid accidental leakage.

@Lightbritelite
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I video chat with my family on the phone. That way i can go outside or show people things

poVoq
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Matrix’s support predates the pandemic and is just an embedded Jitsi-meet (XMPP based). AFAIK you can use Jitsi-meet just fine in the browser on the Pine Phone, but I don’t really see many people joining video-chats with their phones anyways. Most do it with their laptops.

@v162
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the Telegram Desktop App is also working nice on small Screens is this not better ?

@PureTryOut
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No, because Telegram has a centralized and proprietary backend and shouldn’t be used.

@v162
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But the Telegram Calls are p2p ant the clients are open source but i can understand why you prefer element

@PureTryOut
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Good to note that I don’t necessarily prefer Element, I prefer Matrix. I rather use clients like KDE’s NeoChat actually :winking face:

Community about running GNU/Linux on phones. Projects like Ubuntu Touch, Plasma Mobile, PostmarketOS, Mobian etc. Either on former Android phones or hardware like the PinePhone.

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