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I’d better see Matrix integration, there’s something happening https://jasonrobinson.me/content/9db6bef7-e001-4de1-960a-6a24b59e5609/

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From what I understand, Cerulean is more a proof of concept rather than in the works, tons of other more important things to implement. It first needs to have a proper spec on the Matrix side, then maybe an ActivityPub bridge, but the spec first. The answer anyway is - you want, you do, that’s open source.

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Serge Tarkovski
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So then just wait when someone implements what you want, as I do.

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I think that each software should do one thing (and provide interopérability). I don’t think that copying solutions of big companies are a good solution as they have the people to maintain huge monolith that do a lot of things but I don’t think community maintained projects can maintain such softwares, nor do I think it’s a good way to welcome new developers.

I would rather like a simple link to matrix username in the bio or an integration with an existing solution with a unique identity.

Therefore I hope it won’t happen because it would complexify the protocol when e2ee private chats already exist.

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Oups. Oui, effectivement 🙃

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Given that you can set-up an XMPP server using the same webfinger addresses as used by Mastodon etc. this is very much already possible and rather a question of coming up with an easy implementation.

Pleroma at least already has an relatively easy to use integration with an XMPP server and a tighter integration seem feasible given that Pleroma also uses Erlang similar to Ejabberd.

The alternative is using Movim.eu (although it does not have e2ee yet). It basically does the reverse, i.e. adding a social media website to your XMPP chat app. There are also some (very early) ideas to bridge it to ActivityPub.

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E2EE doesn’t really make sense if you are using it through a website. The website could trivially send 3 lines of JS that steal all of your private keys and past messages once and then delete itself, without leaving any trace. E2EE encryption in the web browser only brings superficial security.

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Yep, as well as numerous password managers for example. It’s not really as much an exploit as it is a crappy security model.

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