• Tamandua
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    I have been outraged over Syria, but the solutions are far less clear. What solution are you proposing there?

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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      I think the solution is pretty clear. US needs to pack up and leave Syria. US is occupying Syria completely illegally and stealing their national resources as we speak. There is zero justification for what US is doing under the international law.

  • @Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml
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    Oh but they do. They do. Same things as about Ukraine, even. “Fuckin Russia, keep out!” and “le ebil dictator kills civvies for fun because he’s evil like that”

  • @OsrsNeedsF2P
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    They’re not whi-- Err, it’s different cultural values.

  • @Barbarian@sh.itjust.works
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    I am fairly generically middle of the road politically (at least compared to the extremes here on Lemmy atm)

    I was outraged and horrified by the treatment of Syrians here in Europe.

    While I’m very happy that Ukrainian refugees are being helped and supported, I have raised this same point. Sometimes even to Ukrainians staying in my family’s house. The dismissiveness towards Syrian refugees because “they’re different” was apalling.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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      Again, there is no justification under the international law for invading Syria. US attacks civilians all the time, and has one of the highest murder rates of civilians by the domestic security forces in the world.

      On a completely unrelated note, I just like having a separate account to keep instances separate in my head. I prefer posting on Lemmygrad using the local account there, and I subscribe to a different set of communities. It helps me compartmentalize things in my head.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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          The US military started shooting its citizens? Really now?

          Nah, US police forces do that job. Really now. US also runs a concentration camp on the Cuban soil that it annexed, has concentration camps for refugees on the border, has the highest prison population in the world that’s used as literal slave labour. If you applied the same standard to US then it’s doing far more horrific things to its own citizen as well as millions of people in the countries US regularly invades than Syria.

          Seems to me you’re pushing an agenda here judging from your utterly intellectually dishonest comments.

          But Lemmy compartmentalises anyway. Seems to me you’re pushing an agenda judging from your post history.

          Seems to me like you’re making a hamfisted attempt at a personal attack here because you have no actual point to make.

  • @TheAnonymouseJoker
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    Remember, blue eyes blonde hair. That is what they said openly. And they wish Russians death openly on internet these days while calling them orcs. Not a grain of sympathy for them. They deserve everything coming towards them.

    I have two Syrian friends and I do not take this lightly.

    • @OsrsNeedsF2P
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      Russians have blue eyes and blonde hair too…? Congrats on the friends but maybe also try thinking a bit

        • @OsrsNeedsF2P
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          My point was about Russians, you linked stuff about Ukrainians (and dumb reporters). Don’t send me to research your points for you

          • @TheAnonymouseJoker
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            Looks like I was the one who did the… research, not you. How do you people come up with this much confidence on the keyboard?

      • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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        Russians are the ones invading. The point you’re replying to is that it’s taboo to invade countries with white people, not that white people can’t be criticized. Russia is being criticized in the west because they invaded a country with people who have blue eyes and blond hair.

        • @Evilsmiley@sh.itjust.works
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          Except Georgia and Chechnya didnt get any attention either.

          It’s a bit reductive to boil the whole thing down to race. Geography has a lot to do with it too, Ukraine being right between the E.U and Russia, and being an absolutely massive country itself.

          Politically, Ukraine has been aligning itself more towards western europe for a while, so again the west has a direct interest in supporting its ally.

          There are a lot of factors that should be considered together, just picking out one and using that to prop up your own agenda is dishonest.

          This btw doesnt mean that I’m absolving all in the west of racism, I’m sure there are many for whom that is the most important factor, but its definitely not the majority.

          It also doesnt mean that I think we shouldnt care about Syria, Georgia or Chechnya, I’m simply pointing out that there are more factors at play than race, and i dont think race is as big a factor as this post makes out.

          • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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            Politically, Ukraine was neutral and tried to develop good relations with both the west and Russia. However, that wasn’t good enough for the west, and US decided Ukraine needed a color revolution that culminated in the 2014 coup that overthrew the legitimate democratically elected government. At that point Ukraine ended up in a civil war.

            There are of course more factors than race, what this ultimately comes down to is the geopolitical power struggle between the west and Russia over their respective spheres of influence.

            The race however is a big factor in how western public reacts to wars that western regimes involve themselves in. There have been a lot of mask off moment where western reporters talked about people with blue eyes and blond hair, while the chief EU diplomat actually referred to EU as a garden and the rest of the world as a jungle. The racism isn’t exactly hidden here.

        • @SgtThunderC_nt@lemmy.zip
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          So… Taiwan? If you’re gonna call out prejudice do it right. It’s more like how we don’t care for our homeless, if you’re less developed we just assume your country is going to be violent. And THAT is the disgusting part.

          • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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            What about Taiwan specifically, it’s a Chinese province as recognized by UN, and practically every country in the world including the US. The only reason there are tensions in Taiwan is due to US meddling there since the Chinese civil war ended. As with most problems in the modern world, US is the direct cause.