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Google have suspended Element in the Play Store without notifying us; we’re reaching out to find out what’s going on. Apologies for the inconvenience; in the interim there’s https://t.co/aaZ9qXz69W but it’s a few versions behind. We’ll post updates here.— Element (@element_hq) January 29, 2021

Google have suspended Element in the Play Store without notifying us; we’re reaching out to find out what’s going on. Apologies for the inconvenience; in the interim there’s https://f-droid.org/en/packages/im.vector.app/ but it’s a few versions behind. We’ll post updates here.

Dessalines
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This is the only issue I can find on their github: https://github.com/vector-im/element-android/issues/2737

I’m asking them to host their own f-droid repo, would be a really good idea.

@je_vv
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But it’s in official f-droid. Is it too out of date that you’re asking for a custom repo? If using a custom repo, I’d hope they keep the f-droid policy though, removing all google and proprietary stuff…

@xe8
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Love to hear what their excuse is.

“The big social media companies paid us to do it”

@Echedenyan
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If they run their own F-Droid repo or support F-Droid directly, updates could arrive faster.

Element is already on F-Droid.

@Echedenyan
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updates could arrive faster

It is because of the part I reference. It seems it is mostly outdated a big part of the time in comparison with Goolag Play release.

@tralalaaaa
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did they not go after Mastodon apps last year? For a company behind Chrome, you would expect they understand that the software is not responsible for the content that can be accessed (as I assume that’s the issue)

Dreeg Ocedam
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did they not go after Mastodon apps last year?

Yeah, they did, I think it was because some Mastodon clients allowed access to Gab and other Alt-right social networks. AFAIK they just warned them, and never ended up deleting them. Here it seems that they haven’t even warned them.

@tralalaaaa
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thanks for reminding me of the details.

UPDATE, seems like the app will be back shortly:

https://twitter.com/element_hq/status/1355663753380032512

@Echedenyan
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It got restored already.

Also, could you post Nitter links instead of Twitter directly?.

I think that could be better for opt-in to privacy and freedom by pointing first to the good link and then let the use choose if they prefer check the bad link but always the good first.

I was actually thinking “should I post a twitter link…”, but since I forgot about Nitter at that moment, I decided to post it. Will change to Nitter next time!

@Echedenyan
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:3

Geotechland
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I think I will adopt this mindset when sharing my videos :)

@elshize
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I wonder if anybody at google realizes that removing element doesn’t block the content because there are other matrix apps available in the store…

They’ve apparently banned most Matrix clients (except fluffychat, I guess)

@elshize
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Did they? I saw fluffychat but I didn’t check further. I wonder what is different about this particular app then.

“Oh no, this is anti-corporate!!!”

@Axaoe
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There’s also a Progressive web app frontend if you use a supporting browser if you’re looking for a lightweight option for messaging, hopefully this means they roll their own Fdroid repo going forward.

Dreeg Ocedam
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A web frontend for an end to end encrypted messaging service is a bit of a joke.

End to end encryption is worthless if the server can update the code you are running at anytime without you being made aware of it.

@Axaoe
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It was mainly based around seeing people not wanting to use the Fdroid repos/version on a Mastodon thread - for whatever reason being a few builds behind seemed like it was worse than not using the service at all, in case anyone was like that here I thought it worthwhile to share (Edit: especially if encryption is not on their priority list and they just wanted a quick way to login).

I have a mixed view on Matrix in general but agree with your assesment of the web portal.

@yogthos
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I saw it mentioned that f-droid version won’t be able to do notifications. Anybody know regarding that?

I use the f-droid version, and have been getting notifications.

@yogthos
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oh good to know

I use the F-Droid version and I get notifications.

@je_vv
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Me too, and I didn’t remove power optim… One can configure how often to sync…

@Bloodaxe
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You get notifications, but there is some sort of difference yes. Maybe it uses a more powerhungry way of fetching/pushing notifications?

@yogthos
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yeah it might have to resort to polling

@sia
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@je_vv
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Fluffy unfortunately is way behind in terms of features with regard to element.io… It doesn’t support voice/video calls for example. I created an issue about that, and they just closed with the criteria that it would break very old phones… I really got disappointed. I do think there’s still no gnu/linux neither android matrix client at the same level of features than element.io. Hopefully that’ll change, specially on the desktop side, where electron is really a pain, but so far that’s not happening…

@sia
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@je_vv
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Yeah, I was just saying is not 1:1 features alternative. A pretty good one for just for text chatting though. And I’m still hoping other alternatives catch up in terms of features. I’d like a Qt alternative on the desktop, and also an android alternative from the community, and not element.io

@sia
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@Echedenyan
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The problem I saw with Fluffy was using non-free parts as Google Play services when I tested it not so much ago even with their custom F-Droid repository.

@BlackCentipede
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