Thanks for your opinions, comrades. I value them all equally. My question is just out of curiosity.

  • Free Palestine
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    171 year ago

    Every interaction I’ve ever had with a Hoxhaist both IRL and online have been frustrating.

    They want so strongly to see themselves as the one true continuation of Marxism, that they’ll belittle and besmirch AES, other communists, etc.

    They want so strongly to believe that anti-revisionism is the way to go, that they blind themselves to their own revision. They themselves refuse to acknowledge the facts of our realities, and adhere to a bygone orthodoxy that serves no one but their egos.

    Marxism is meant to adapt to the material conditions of the people who use it, they deny this. They see adapting Marxism as a deviation, in much the same way an Orthodox Christian considers all other forms of Christianity as heretical. Lenin adapted Marxism to fit the Russian situation at the turn of the 1900s, it’s invalid because Lenin had to stretch, shift, and mold Marx’s words to do it. Mao adapted Marxism in the 1920s to work for warlord era China, it’s a deviation because he added to Marx’s words. Deng adapted Marxism to fit 1970s China, it’s a deviation because it introduced markets. So on, and so forth.

    If you support any ML state, you are a revisionist. If your ideals don’t perfectly line up with what Marx wrote in the late 1800s, you’re a revisionist.

    It’s ridiculous trying to have a good-faith conversation with them, nothing you say feels “good-faith” to them. They can only respond with insults, they feel as though they’ve always got to argue their points. It’s like talking to a cultist. And god forbid if you show them that you disagree with certain aspects of classical Marxism.

    And after we (lemmygrad) had such a bad experience with a Hoxhaist, my mind’s made up about them. They’re in the same league as other post-leftists, like Maoists or Ultras. They have little to no business being here, and I have little to no business giving a shit about them.

  • SovereignState
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    101 year ago

    They’re kind of a strange bunch insofar as they act as if they are the torch-holders for “traditional” Marxist-Leninist thought, that they’re the tankiest of the tanks, yet I’ve never seen a Hoxhaist engage in good faith outside of Maoist and anarchist circles. The phenomenal thing about Marxism-Leninism being a science is that ruthless criticism of all that exists is built into its framework – if a communist believes there are issues with adopting a more market-based approach to the economy and the reforms in the communist world away from pure planned economy, that is ok and worth listening to as long as they produce evidence and suggest alternatives. Struggle! Instead, Hoxhaists and “anti-revisionists” are much more likely to wholesale denounce socialist projects world-round as unsalvagable betrayals that need to be literally destroyed and rebuilt from the ground up, indulging in the same terroristic, petty-bourgeois radicalism as Maoists and anarchists.

    The most plainly this contradiction expresses itself is in the fact that Hoxhaists detest the DPRK. Of all the socialist projects in the world, the DPRK is by far the closest to adhering to “traditional” Marxist-Leninist principles – a heavily planned economy, economic protectionism – yet from Hoxhaists there exists the same disdain they hold for Cuba/China/Vietnam. The same imperialist lies and news outlets sourced in their so-called criticisms. How does that reflect their so called anti-revisionism and not merely impossible standards of purity that neatly align with the same nonsense spouted by Western NGOs?

    Also their understanding of imperialism is laughable, just as with Maoists and anarchists.