I would love to see a sub for astrology, anyone interested?

    • @JK1348@lemmygrad.mlOP
      -1•2 years ago

      Why not? (:

      I like astrology i remember before i got off social media there was pretty cool comrades who examined like astrological placements during the Soviet revolution, which was very interesting to me…

            • Seanchaí (she/her)
              4•2 years ago

              It’s sort of strange that you would say that Indigenous peoples practiced the most “ancient, humble, sacred and beautiful” way of life but also blanket condemn astrology as “cosmic phrenology” and not a religion.

              Have you ever actually spoken to an Indigenous person? Are you aware of the multitudes of astrological inspirations in Indigenous religions? One thing that is rather common in Turtle Island religions is a view that Indigenous people were born from the stars, the stars are kin and ancestor, and the stars can offer guidance and advice.

              This is true in Indigenous religions all over. Celtic peoples also practiced a form of astrology that was violently suppressed by Christian missionaries in the early days of colonization.

              Early Muslim astrologers (that’s right, astrologers, not astronomers) were mathematical pioneers.

              Whether you believe it or not, it’s not for you to condemn its very existence when it offers comfort to many, is frequently applied to liberation and radical politics, and has never once been responsible for genocides, colonization, crusades…

              You can block an astrology community, you know? You don’t have to engage with it. But there’s nothing more colonial than saying someone else’s spirituality is inherently reactionary and likening it to actual genocidal race science.

                • Seanchaí (she/her)
                  4•2 years ago

                  I think the “daughters of the witches you couldn’t burn” white middle-class aesthetic has made people a lot more critical of it than its relatively niche applications warrant, so it’s understandable. It does have a rich history in a lot of cultures, but that’s not what gets the optics, obviously, because what middle-class white people do is always the spotlight.

              • AdvancedAktion
                -1•2 years ago

                Whether you believe it or not, it’s not for you to condemn its very existence when it offers comfort to many, is frequently applied to liberation and radical politics, and has never once been responsible for genocides, colonization, crusades…>

                Cite some sources for this claim, not take it in a confrontational tone. These are things that personally affect me, I don’t claim they are inherently anything, but its destructive power is experienced by people who you claim to speak behalf of. Astrology is complex, indigenous, used for radical cause but you haven’t lived in a society that practice it. Your fascination is only due to it being regarded as superstition by the westerners.

                • Seanchaí (she/her)
                  5•2 years ago

                  Cite some sources that there haven’t been astrology-based genocides or crusades??? What?

                  Also, I am, in fact, not even a little bit fascinated with or interested in astrology. Nor have I ever claimed to speak on behalf of anyone. However I do not agree with a stance that we should ban discussions surrounding religions. If your life has been severely impacted by astrology, then a communist astrology community would in fact be a perfect place for you to explain that, and a discussion about the application of astrology can be had.

                  Christianity has been used as a bludgeon against me and as a leverage for enacting anti-queer legislation. I would never presume to ban a christian community that sought to explore these ideas and apply the christian ideals of community and love to communism.

                  Spirituality is personal, and not to be controlled or censored insofar as it isn’t used to harm others, and negotiating that line and reimagining spirituality in a communist society is exactly the point of such communities on here.

  • @knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml
    6•2 years ago

    Marxism-Leninism requires us to look at social relations and history through a scientific lens. We’re not going to just drop that scientific lens when it comes to looking up at the night sky.

  • diegeticscream[all]🔻
    5•2 years ago

    It’s not my cup of tea, but if it’s something you’re interested in, you should make the sub and post in it a bit.

    Just be aware it might not get much traction here. There is at least one “spiritualist” sub on lemmygrad, so there’s some precedent.

    Best of luck! :)

  • AdvancedAktion
    5•2 years ago

    Those guys defending astrology doesn’t have any idea how fucked up it can get. Ask to anyone from India. Here astrology is intertwined with our life. It destroys lives, its regressive and unscientific. It is cool and fun until it affect your life.