I think it was Parenti who said that neoliberalism has achieved many of fascisms goals with a veneer of democracy. The USA has MANY fascistic elements already, particularly if you are not white or are explicitly anti-capitalist (lord help you if you are both).
I don’t think the future USA will look anything like quite has existed before. Many societies that went full fascists had very unique circumstances (material conditions in Germany were actually terrible for a while before the Nazis came to power). Honestly, many Americans are very lazy and self centered. I hate to think about what will happen if we the USA gets into a prolonged depression though.
We’ll find out soon, I’m sure.
It’s gonna take a lot of work. The biggest barrier is the dual oppression system of White Supremacy and Patriarchy. Anti-racism and anti-sexism are picking up steam and the Capitalist dictatorship has picked two opposing sides to the issues. They’ve been forced into this contradiction by the class consciousness of our comrades in the 60s. Through Neoliberalism, the inherent value of whiteness and masculinity has been on a downward slide. White people are becoming poorer as land in this country is increasingly saturated, and men are becoming less powerful as especially white women are being proletarianized (women of color have already been proletarianized).
I think we should take note of movements in Latin America as the model for how we in a settler society can build movements with our indigenous neighbors. We need a solid plan on how to assist in the rebuilding of indigenous nations, through an explicit multi-national state. For that we can’t just waltz in as white saviors (I’m not white, but you know what mean). We need to have dialogue with them and assist each other where we have common struggle.
I have more to say but I’d rather think on it. For sure the triple threat of white supremacy, patriarchy, and the oppression of indigenous nations (and the coinciding colonial mindset) are the main contradictions in American society. We will never achieve anything until we all understand the history for how we got here.
“All revolutions are impossible until they happen, then they become inevitable.”
I think its a complicated thing to say for sure “Yes” or “No” either way, but its more likely than its been in a very long time. The question of what the nature of a modern American revolution would be, that’s yet to be seen. America seems more likely to fall to a fascist revolution rather than a socialist one, but these things can develop rapidly, its hard to tell.
If there is a revolution, it isn’t likely to be a Communist revolution. It’ll likely be a fascist revolution. Also, that is assuming we don’t go down in nuclear fire first. It only takes one phycho to turn the Earth into a hellscape overnight, and I know a few phychos just in my workplace (“if it were me I would’ve glassed Russia and China already” - libertarian coworker).
Exactly. Like probably over half the country would probably be ok with outright state sanctioned murder of communists.
Basically no. Not any time soon. Imperialism can achieve the same gains that the American people demand with a much lower cost so even good organizating is undermined by differing strategic goals. All of the organizations I am around do not focus on big picture strategic problems but focus more on dogma and occasionally focus on organizing as if it is a moral impairative instead of something that can accomplish goals. Not only that but capital is so far in front of general anti capitalism that rhetorical struggles are functionally an unwinnable game of wack a mole.
Furthermore, the need for theory and praxis that is fully in tune with our historical and material conditions is frustrated by 100 layers of problems that no one is interested in fixing beyond those who are tragically ignored and those who are dangerously chuavanist.
I really doubt it currently. The USA is one of the least class-conscious societies I can think of. I still hold out a small sliver of hope, but I really doubt it.
I kind of agree, unfortunately. With what I see in my corner of the world, there’s no shot. I know there are plenty of MLs out there fighting the good fight, but.
Not now at the very least. Things are worse economically in Europe now than in the US, so most Americans will just blame Biden for inflation and forget any systemic problems, or at least they will until another crisis happens that shakes up the USA again soon
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If a sort of revolution is inevitable, commies need to be ready to gtfo the country safely or fight.
If commies can make militant, armed blocs, and separately really start selling rural America on communism, it will help the chances of success A LOT. Commies should make an sra type org. SRA is a bit of a catch all, umbrella group that attracts anti-commie socdems too. Not productive.
No violence until war breaks out or something extraordinary happens. Having training and support prepared could help bolster parties push harder on certain things. They can counter fascists, too. Fascist allies are emboldened by the fact so many lefties are “pacifists” and will never be caught defending themselves.
Fascists train and shoot much more than commies. They have a lot more money and resources, so a group that focuses on training for guerrilla-like scenarios would be ideal. Fitness, hiking, learning to make a Dakota fire/smokeless fire, Leave No Trace, setting up hammock and tarp, foraging, using compass and maps, cleaning weapons, hygiene and first aid in backcountry settings are essential in case a serious natl situation were to arise.
Esp in the west and Appalachia, guerrilla warfare(armed groups of no more than ten hiding in the woods full-time) is more viable/necessary than some realize. It could be sustained for a while.
Edit: add counter-insurgent/counter-intelligence tactic familiarity to the list.
mountains might make a good hiding spot
I think it may be possible in the next century as the contradictions are heightening and fascism seems very likely further increasing the contradictions. With the internet and multipolarity looming I think more and more people will be Marxists as time goes on, and if we get a big enough base revolution may be possible.
No, there’s probably not even the potential for a right-wing or fascist revolution.
Both factions of liberalism, be it the faux leftists or conservatives or whatever, are completely defanged, utterly fucking useless, and think everything is solved by blindingly trusting in their respective teams’ bullshit neoliberal politicians and by just vooting harder, and at the end of the day, they are both complicit in, and comfortable with, the status quo.
Conservatives conserve nothing of worth to the common man, liberals can’t even achieve the bare minimum of social-democratic reforms.
And if there is a genuinely revolutionary sentiment or movement on the rise, you can be sure the CIA, FBI, the police, etc, will COINTELPRO their asses, or they will be promptly appropriated and defanged by the liberals and faux leftists.
Not soon. I think the economy collapse and then civil war and/or secessions will come way sooner.
Do you think it is possible that those could be material triggers for a revolution?
I really don’t think so. I think the USA would have to be in absolute ruins before any serious socialist movement would gain steam. Things can change very rapidly, but the odds are very very very low.
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I wish I could. I think most of us are stuck here.
Yes, but it won’t be socialist revolution. Most likely fascist one.
Socialism in USA is in complete shambles after being systematically supressed and sabotaged materially and ideologically for so long, that not only the US government must crash, their influence must crash, but the dregs of opportunism must be cleansed.
I need to get the fuck out of this country.
I guess? Just not very likely. Any sort of unrest is way more likely to be highjacked by libs and turned into a simple overturn. Also very few signs of revolutionary situation, and no organized party. EU is a lot more promising in the near future.
The US will fall apart before that happens.
But after the split there’s a high likelihood for revolutions in each new nation.
Including a communist one. Once the US splits,
China becomes the world leader and I can’t see their ideology not spilling over to the rest of world once they are.Possible, yes. Probable, no, at least not right now.
I do think communism is inevitable. For everywhere. But whether we see it in our lifetime is another question.