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@k_o_t
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brave is definitely one of those semi libre projects that try to seem libre that stallman always warned us about

SnowCode
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Why is the mastodon post saying “Is Brave slowly turning into Firefox”. What’s the problem with Firefox?

@ninchuka
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I swear most of the brave users I see are brainwashed and think brave is better then firefox when brave does shit like this and firefox doesnt have crypto currency shit built into the browser or an advertising platform

SnowCode
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The only reason why Brave was cool to me was because of the speed it had. But after switching from Brave to Firefox, I don’t think speed is a problem anymore.

@resynth1943
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@Lowey
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While FF has really bad JSengine and malloc, FF does prompt you to see the telemetry at startup of fresh install

@Echedenyan
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UXP is meowning you~

@resynth1943
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@Lowey
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You can turn it off in startup install which FF prompts

@ufrafecy
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Adda
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Yes, I am using Brave Browser from time to time and I must agree with the issue, sadly. Every now and again, the rewards and Brave-ads re-enable themselves and after so many times it gets really annoying. Not even mentioning how intrusive the reward system is. It might be a nice feature, but why is it opt-out? After all, this was also one of the reasons I stopped using Brave as my daily browser.

@roastpotatothief
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The goal of brave was supposed to be that you get money for watching the brave ads, which normally gets given to the websites you use the most.

To was supposed to break the parasitic targeted advertising ecosystem and give users control of where their ad money goes.

It would also lets you automatically donate an amount per month to the websites you use most.

Is this not true or does it not work?

@BforBrian
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I’ve been using Brave for a while, so if anyone has any questions about it, I’d love to answer them.

This is an accurate description of it, but Brave also allows you to earn money. Brave blocks all normal advertisements by default. It then instead sends you a push notification style advertisement in the bottom right of your screen that you can click away in a second. You get paid for this advertisement whether you click it or not because why the hell shouldn’t you get paid for viewing advertisements, and other companies get it instead? I’m the one viewing it.

That aside, I download Brave on all of my devices and created/connected an Uphold wallet in March and got my first payout in February. I’m sitting at $27.61 CAD today for just clicking away the occasional advertisement - again not even looking at it.

I think this is the main thing with Brave. If I am getting this much money in less than a year from nothing at all, imagine what advertising companies are getting when you don’t get a cut of the profit yourself and they’re milking millions.

@roastpotatothief
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I liked the idea at first. But when i downloaded it, it wouldn’t let me donate my own money to websites without giving my real identity.

So I noped out.

@Tech
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Your description is actually right, but not as efficient as they told it would be. Put it all aside and it still a very good browser.

@koavf
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Does anyone know of a better Chromium-based alternative?

Foss Chromium and Bromite are good.

SnowCode
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You mean Ungoogled-chromium? The default version of chromium is already foss.

The name ‘ungoogled’ is too complicated. How can a Google software be foss?

SnowCode
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Well several things from Google are open-source. Now to say it’s “libre” it’s better to use FLOSS. Otherwise people think it’s “free of cost”.

Basically, you have Chromium (open-source but with some Google shit in it) which is the base of Google Chrome (closed-source, with even more Google shit in it).

Some people made a fork from Chromium they called Ungoogled Chromium that removes the Google shit that was in it.

PS: Bromite is based on Ungoogled Chromium

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SnowCode
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Chromium is still sponsored by Google, so they still represent the interests of Google I guess.

@nxlemmy
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https://beakerbrowser.com/ Its open source, blocks ads by default, has a p2p system that is quite powerful and actively developed. Also has interesting features like have mulitple tabs open side by side like a wm and other cool things

@koavf
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I’m familiar with Beaker but thought it was just experimental for sharing web pages peer-to-peer. Is it useful for actual everyday browsing?

@nxlemmy
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Yeah it works perfectly fine for everyday browsing

Bilb!
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My favorite to use is Vivaldi. Not sure about its foss bona-fides, it’s just a pleasure to use.

Edit: It’s not FOSS, if that concerns you.

@koavf
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It is, thanks.

@Echedenyan
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Thank you for the information.

@Tech
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Come on guys, you can easily disable Brave Rewards program on your browser, if you dont like it just put it aside. Brave is a fast and private service if you so set it up right.

Bilb!
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But at that point, why use Brave at all over the many alternatives?

@Tech
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Because it’s fast (Chromium) and have an efficient and smooth ads blocker. By few clicks you can keep only what matters to you.

They let you choose, it’s pretty honest.

SnowCode
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The sad thing is: they have a lot of shit in opt-out instead of opt-in.

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I agree, I’ve used Brave in the past, but at some point they go too far. It’s like MS putting ads in the program menu, you can remove them, but they should not be there in the first place.

I stopped using it when they started doing this

@Tech
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You’re kinda right, their message “you’re not the product” and showing you ads after is pretty confusing (maybe more than confusing lol). But i think they hit the reality that they were selling utopia and try to keep the project alive by making profit.

But it’s honest from them to let you choose to see ads or not, i mean it’s all open-source !

For the sponsored background i forgot they did that since i’m using another home tab, but anyway as you showed it, you can still disable it and it’s there at the first place because they need profit to live like any other product.

I think it’s fair enough.

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Yes, I have nothing against their BAT cryptocurrency (you can disable it with a few clicks). The backgrounds were weirder, it should be in opt-in. They should just give an option like “to support Brave’s development, please activate ads on the home page” that would be a nice way of contributing.

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You would be surprised. I’ve seen weird things on Reddit. Users that said they lost those sponsored backgrounds and wanted them back and stuff like that.

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SnowCode
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Sure, but still I think you underestimate the “fanboyism” of Brave users :p Money is actually the all-time issue of free software.

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@ufrafecy
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@SirLotsaLocks
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yeah the fact that it came from a CEO who was fired from firefox for being homophobic is one of the main reasons I’ll never touch it with a 10 foot pole. It’s different from firefox in all the wrong ways, and some of the cooler things are just gimmicks.

@dreeg_ocedam
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@onlooker
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Oh, wow. This is way worse than I thought. Fuck 'em and their slimy CEO.

@BforBrian
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I don’t understand what the CEO being homophobic has to do with it. The product is great, it doesn’t allow targeted advertising, he doesn’t invade our privacy and security, etc.

As for the “crappy cryptomoney”, I wouldn’t call it useless or crappy. I’ve gotten almost $28 from it for nothing, and using the Uphold app connected to your Brave browser you can exchange it for any crypto, or equity in other companies, or even by gold with it. It isn’t just a useless crypto and I think it’s kind of messed up I’ve gotten $28 from literally nothing while advertising companies are taking it all in with normal browsers.

@dreeg_ocedam
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@BforBrian
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I don’t understand that though, (not trying to be a dick) I could understand it if he was prejudice, but he just doesn’t like them.

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@iszomer
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@iszomer
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@SirLotsaLocks
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yeah if the CEO of brave donates to hateful charities, and he’s making money from his scummy practices, then that is absolutely a valid criticism of the product.

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