Mexico’s supreme court has decriminalized abortion across the country, two years after ruling that abortion was not a crime in one northern state.

That earlier ruling had set off a grinding process of decriminalizing abortion state by state. Last week, the central state of Aguascalientes became the 12th state to decriminalize the procedure. Judges in states that still criminalize abortion will have to take account of the top court’s ruling.

The supreme court wrote on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter, that it had decided that “the legal system that criminalized abortion in the Federal Penal Code is unconstitutional, [because] it violates the human rights of women and people with the ability to gestate.”

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    Because not letting the state choose means the federal government is telling the state what to do and that’s big government overreach

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    Pretty crazy. Mexico has traditionally been VERY catholic. The fact that it has become more progressive than the US on women’s rights really speaks volumes about how terrible the US has become.

    I suspect a LOT of abortions happening down in the west texas town of el paso.

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      Pretty crazy. Mexico has traditionally been VERY catholic. The fact that it has become more progressive than the US on women’s rights really speaks volumes about how terrible the US has become.

      In some ways it might be about sending a clear signal that they arent interested in following the political or cultural leadership of the US.

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      They also legalized same sex marriage a while ago. Yes they are religious but they are not “bible belt fundamentalists”… there is also universal healthcare. Did you know several American doctors go study there and just come back to pass the exams? Mexico had it’s problems but it’s not as bad as they make it seem here. Most immigrants that come here are at the bottom of the barrel of the economical scale.

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      It seems even the pope is more progressive than American right now.

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        Legitimately wild for the Pope to point blank call the US regressive.

        Not out of hypocrisy (though, yeah - solidarity with survivors and the colonised) - but because he was actually really justified in what he said to reach that.

        Wild. Absolutely wild. The US is so comically bad faith a society even the pope can eloquate why it’s awful.

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          Because like 40% of our people are literally insane and living in a different reality

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          It boggles my minds that in the USA the catholics are considered the reasonable christians.

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        The pope doesn’t do shit agains his organisations centuries long paedophilia problem.

        Not even the US is that bad.

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          You don’t have to literally be a pedophile to be truly truly terrible, there’s lots of ways to be that.

          That is to say, that does not excuse anyone. “At least we didn’t fuck children” is not a defense or an excuse. The deeper right wing in the US still utter scum that needs to be shown the door and then have a fence built after them (and make them pay for it!) to make sure they don’t come back. Independent of whether the vatican state tried to cover up the church’s massive and systemic pedophilia.

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          The sbc has a vastly worse pedophilia problem, has for decades, but they can cover it up well because they drive the girls to suicide because nobody would ever believe a good man like their daddy touched them there.

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      Well, most Americans are progressive on the issues, including abortion, but due to absurd things like the Electoral College, and the way our power is distributed through states and the way in which rural areas have much more influence than they should, conservatives are given way too much power in relation to their numbers.

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        Oh please, if we didn’t have the electoral college the south wouldn’t be able to serve as the moral compass of the country and couldn’t guide us away from such evils as slavery and racism.

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      Mexico’s constitution always allowed for abortions in cases of rape or danger to the mother or fetus.

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      Catholics might be against abortion, but they are no where near as vocal as some other Christian sects in the US.

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    …people with the ability to gestate.

    Got that 1-2 punch of abortion progress and inclusive language.

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      Edit: shit, I thought this was the other comment about Texas towns arresting people trying to get abortions just as they were driving through.

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      Texas should start dusting off their pride flags if they are discouraging men and women from having sex, lmao.

      (Not how sexuality works, of course, but it makes me chuckle at the amazing irony of the situation, particularly in light of conspiracy theories like the great replacement and all that nonsense.)

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      God, I’m so glad I moved out of a shithole state before things went completely off the rails.

      At some point, I’m sure people will get tired of constant butthole inspections in these states and will go back to being chill and telling their lazy-ass politicians to focus on stuff that actually matters, instead of whatever distraction this is.

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      Would love if the federal govt just removes roads and highway funding to states that allow or do not stop this from occurring. The federal interstate program should be just that.

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      I’m aware of the recent developments in that regard, jfc the whole thing is so fucked up. That and the human trafficking of immigrants to other states. What the fuck is wrong with those states?

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    Did y’all know that Mexico also has a form of universal healthcare. Pretty soon the flow of illegal immigrants might start going the other way.

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      Lot of folks hop the border for a bit for the far cheaper dental care down there.

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        I’ve heard of a lot of people doing this. Pretty bad when driving to an entire other country for dental care is cheaper.

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            I’m picturing her going to Russia for cheaper healthcare. She did claim she could see Russia from her house.

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              That was Tina Fey. Palin said that you can see Russia from part of Alaska which is true since there are a couple islands that are like 10 miles away from some Russian islands. Saying that that gives you some sort of foreign policy experience is idiotic though.

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          I’ve done this with my wife. It saved us thousands of dollars. And the place was very clean and professional.

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            I’ve heard horror stories, ironically all from dentists in the US, about dentists in Mexico. But I hear a lot more stories like yours about how it was great, and they managed to save a ton of money.

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              I’m sure there are scammers, but my wife did a lot of research before we went. The dentist we went to in TJ actually got her degree in San Bernardino, CA like 40 mins from where we live. If you do your due diligence the process can go pretty smoothly, and yes, save a ton of cash.

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      There is already a good amount of medical tourism to Mexico from the US.

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        Like how Utahans were buying insulin from Mexico because it was something like 1/100 the price.

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      That said, the entire mexican public health service system is absolute shit, so much so that the president acknowleged it as recently a last year.

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        so much so that the president acknowleged it

        Acknowledging it is the first step to improving it. We have Republicans who have the gall to claim that we have the best healthcare in the world.

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          Completely agree. The fact they’re restructuring and allocating funds at least seems to suggest that they’re taking it seriously, and even if it’s baby steps, it’s something

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        Actually… No

        The facilities could use some work, yeah, red tape and waiting times are terrible, for sure, medicines availability, thanks for this president have been inconsistent as of late, yes

        But… thanks to the perks offered in the job, many of the best doctors and surgeons treat there, the ones that treat also in the expensive hospital are treating in the IMSS (name of the service), so yeah, great surgeons for free if you are willing to go through the long bureaucratic process.

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          I’ve indeed heard frequently that the best practitioners are found in the IMSS, although in my own experience, whether you have a good experience with the medical professionals and procedures is basically a coin toss, unless you have connections and are able to ask for someone in particular, or personally know one of the practitioners.

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    Ah.

    So white ladies are going to start fleeing across the border to get abortions that they can’t get in the States.

    Conservatives really ARE trying to bring us back to the 1950s, aren’t they?

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      I mean, that’s kind of their whole shtick lol

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      In Europe we are back to the 1920s, so the great depression and another world war are still to come. You should be glad they are trying to bring you only as back as 1950s 🤣🤣🤣

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          Nationalism and far right movements are on the surge everywhere (except in Spain where the memory of dictatorship is still relatively fresh, just a generation ago).

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            Hrm, I would say you’re overstating things, at least in comparison to the very real issues mentioned here that pertain to the US.

            Don’t get me wrong, the evolution of politics in countries such as France, Germany, Poland and so on is more than just worrying, it’s downright alarming.

            But even in places where the right wing has managed to achieve political power, they have not managed to effect much regressive political change yet. That is to say, the US situation shows what will happen in the EU if this slide continues. And sure, it could be worse if “parties” (I dread to call people who want to abolish the current democracy a political party, tbh) like the AfD attain power, but again that hasn’t happened yet, unlike some clearly xenophobic and active nazi-sympathizers in the US, or people like Santis or MTG.

            Both are shit, but compared to the deeper red states in the US and the truly crazy places, most countries in Europe are a massive improvement, even with all their own problems.

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            At least in Czechia we do no have (or about to have) a psychopath president. So we should be okay for the next 3 years at least.

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            I think that depends on your definition on Nationalism and far right movements. I personally wouldnt say we are back in the 1920s, but I guess we all have different opinions

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          California generates about 15% of the United States GDP. If it was its own country it’d have about the 6th highest GDP in the world.

          So no, it returning to Mexico would in fact not be a good thing for the U.S.

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            Probably one of those people who buys the social media BS claiming California is a “liberal hellscape”.

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              That notion is hilarious to me as a Texan that used to travel up and down the west coast regularly for work. I’ve been to many areas of California that are just as red as any rural areas in Texas. It’s exactly the same as every other state(I’ve been to 48 of the 50 at least several times each state). Rural areas tend to be skewed red, urban tends to be skewed blue. I guess the simplicity of that is hard to see if all the online content you consume is propaganda…

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          We’d rather take Washington, Oregon, Nevada, Arizona, and Idaho make a demented little western federation of sorts. Also Idaho and Arizona are being taken for resource rights.

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            Idaho is right next to Utah. You wouldn’t want to be there when the Great Salt Lake dries up in a few years.

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    Good for Mexico, that’s awesome! Too bad the U.S. is such a fucking backwards excuse of a country.

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      Generally, physically.

      Spiritually is okay as a stopgap solution, say while completely stoned out of your mind, but physically and permanently is what I would advise to actually improve your standard of living. Depending on your language skills and which languages you already know, good possible destinations include:

      • Canada
      • Ireland
      • Germany
      • Norway
      • Sweden (Norwegian language is probably easier for an american though, tbh)

      If in dire straits you could also go to the UK. Especially Scotland is a really beautiful place, but keep in mind as a country UK is quite, well, fucked. It’s still a good destination, but if you’re moving, might as well do better.

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        I would take Sweden out of that, that country is a sinking ship right now. Go to Norway or Finland instead.

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    … wrote on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter,

    It’s amazing how many times online and on TV I hear people phrase things just like this.

    No one is just calling “X”, X.

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    It’d be fun to keep a tracker of how many conservatives clutch their pearls with this decision and then go vacation in Mexico on the beach. Remember, your taxes being used for abortions is evil, but willingly spending your money in Mexico and paying for abortions there is a-okay!

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      Lmao while you’re at it, maybe Mexico is playing 4D chess and abortions become a source of income as a tourist service

      #/s

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    Just call it twitter. Lonnie doesn’t respect name changes for Trans people. Don’t respect his company’s name change.