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I recently finished the book bad blood, about the theranos saga. They also had a general, James Mattis on their board of directors. Not to mention close ties with Henry Kissinger and the Obama administration.

@AgreeableLandscape
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Anyone else think “Theranos” sounds kind of like Thanos?

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I recommend Surveillance Valley by Yasha Levine, it shows that the connections between US tech companies and the US military has been going on since the beginning of the internet.

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I do not know if you know, but do give a read into the Swiss Policy Research resource website. They study the biases and connections of Western media and politicians, among other things.

https://swprs.org/die-propaganda-matrix/

There is also a Media Navigator chart they have, that shows the ideology and power dynamic tilt of media houses. https://swprs.org/media-navigator/

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I rarely buy stuff from Amazon, like once in 2-3 years. I am unable to understand how and why people are so reliant on these services.

We need to get away from American proprietary technology as a whole as much as possible. And we can still do it before it gets too late.

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@TheAnonymouseJoker
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Getting off AWS (as in client based usage via websites) is definitely near impossible due to how things work However you can definitely minimise or nullify usage of Amazon services by yourself if you want to.

If you value convenience too much, it cannot be helped. I do not support these evil USA megacorps, so I make a great effort to keep away from these filthy organisations.

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Very accurate. Materialistic sedentary society is the root of many problems.

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@TheAnonymouseJoker
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Yet some are focused on getting TikTok banned, while they let their nice government have all the data and jurisdiction on them.

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Because America’s government is slightly less corrupt than China’s

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Objectively one of the most false statements about any government worldwide.

This might change your opinion: https://www.wired.co.uk/article/google-project-maven-drone-warfare-artificial-intelligence

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What does that have to do with what I said?

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CIA kills and drone bombs people globally based on metadata collected via smartphones and internet devices people use. Apparently, US military uses Google AI and NSA data troves for this purpose. This is what I gave you the link for.

Does China government do these kinds of things to people anywhere, for all the spying allegations they face from CFR media?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_surveillance_in_China I mean the Chinese government is persecuting any citizens in the country who dare to speak out against them using the mass surveillance they have. As I always say, I hate both the Chinese government and the corrupt west, but I’d much rather live in the west where we have at least some semblance of democracy and freedom

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You can live in shitty West where you have a fake semblance of freedom with anti maskers and anti vaxxers, and where Muslims and blacks are openly discriminated against.

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Yes, or you can live in China where you also have very little freedom, where muslims and anyone who goes against the government are openly discriminated against.

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I live in India though, what is your point, mister Sinophobic? Did your propaganda not work on me, and are you pissed by any chance? Or did Falun Gong send you here?

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What are you even on about? I’m not sinophobic. I have no problem with the people in China or their culture, only their government. I think it’s a fantastic country, but not a perfect one, and the same applies to the US (and India). It’s not propaganda, it’s just the political system and way of life in China which is freedom-restricting, undemocratic and corrupt.

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Do you have problem with USA government, since you said USA government is better than Chinese government?

Because from what I know, they are the ones spying the world since 50 years, and murdering Muslims and blacks around the world, and committing hysterectomies and skin repigmentation on women and blacks in their concentration camps. Oh, did I tell you former White House strategist and defected HK virologist got caught lying about COVID-19 being a Chinese manmade virus? What about the Nayirah testimony with which they justified invasion of Middle East?

You see, you are nothing but an American apologist. You are Sinophobic, and the whole of Chinese people actually love CCP, so if you attack one, you attack both.

Before I go, let me drop this bomb on you.

Exclusive: More Hong Kong Residents Say U.S. Is Bigger Threat Than China, Poll Shows: https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-more-hong-kong-say-us-threat-china-poll-1519710

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What are you on about? I hate the USA. It’s an extremely corrupt nation, practically a dystopia. But I also hate China. It’s not black or white, you don’t have to like one to dislike the other. I would rather live in the US though, because they have some democracy and more freedom of speech than China.

Also just because Hong Kong residents believe it doesn’t mean they are right.

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If Hong Kong residents believed US/Britain colonialism was right, your tone would have been different. Thanks for confirming your biases, and your “beliefs” of democracy in USA.

USA has plutocracy, while China is the one with democratic capitalism, even if the state is authoritarian there. You need to learn a lot.

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China is democratic? That’s a funny joke

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China actually gives freedom to mothers and fathers to be able to go safely to a shop and buy diapers and food for their kids, without risk of being infected and dying because some anti vaxxers and anti maskers cannot roam around there.

USA’s toxic freedom ironically hurts the essential freedom of other people moving around in cities and elsewhere.

So yeah, China does have freedoms in a sense that actually matters, even if they are not being able to abuse a CCP worker without factual basis. (Actually you can criticise CCP by writing letters if a job has not been done eg. road repairs, broken sewage et al. They just prohibit Western propaganda bots and machines from working.)

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I have no idea why you’re a CCP sympathiser. Even if life in China is better than the US that doesn’t change the fact that China is an authoritan regime who persecutes the Uyghurs, has no democracy and has mass surveillance to prevent anyone speaking out about them.

Just because you like socialism doesn’t mean you have to like the CCP. I’m a socialist and I think both China and US have extremely flawed systems.

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So putting facts on the table makes me a CCP sympathiser? Typical American.

Atleast I am not an American apologist supporting child rape, hysterectomies, skin repigmentation or genocide of Muslims and blacks.

I can like the CCP if I want to, because they are alleviating 800 million plus people out of poverty. No democracy ever has done such a good deed, and all democracies are destined to become plutocracies as India (where I live) and USA are.

Has any democracy done such a good deed? Name one. I will probably start disliking CCP.

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Firstly, I’m not American and I’ve said very clearly multiple times that I do not like America. Secondly, it’s pretty funny to talk about genocide of muslims as someone who likes the CCP, who are most infamously currently running genocidal “re-education” (read: concentration) camps for innocent muslims.

Democratic countries have enacted LGBT rights across the globe, including marriage equality and rights to adopt. They have enabled freedom of the press which has revealed and brought justice for many crimes. They have protected many from poverty through welfare programs, though it is well accepted that they could do much more. They provide millions with education and funding for scientific research.

China is pretty close to being state capitalist. That means that they do live in a combination of an oligarchy and a plutocracy. It is impossible to entirely avoid a plutocracy without eliminating money. China still has its billionaires and power is concentrated in unelected politicians and explicitly chosen businessmen.

You can appreciate the successes and shortcomings of both the USA and China. Neither is anywhere near perfect, nor is either purely evil.

But there’s no need to be a such a CCP fanboy just because I say:

  • I’d rather live in a country where I’m legally allowed to live my life as a gay man, adopt children and marry.
  • I’d rather live in a country where I can openly criticise the plutocracy they have and campaign for socialism.
  • I don’t want to live in a country where I’m not allowed to criticise the government for fear of being arrested, where I’m not even allowed to talk about tragedies such as the Tiananmen Square Massacre.
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To correct your statement, China is not “genociding” Muslims, or all Muslims for that matter. Uighurs (not all of the 25 million) are simply being prevented from being radicalised by Wahhabis and ETIM.

What America is doing in Middle East is called genocide of Muslims. China lets most of them live a peaceful life, and the 1 million Uighur number is extrapolated by the nutjob Adrian Zenz. There are less than half of that figure Uighurs in their re-education camps at the moment. Compare this to the million plus blacks and Muslims in USA concentration camps where horrible things happen, and the millions of Muslims genocided in Middle East by USA invasion troops.

There is no evidence China suppresses LGBTQ+ people. Again a false statement.

They have enabled freedom of the press which has revealed and brought justice for many crimes.

So, freedom like Julian Assange or Reality Winner? Which one?

China is pretty close to being state capitalist. That means that they do live in a combination of an oligarchy and a plutocracy.

This is the most bullshit thing I have read in ages. China is the most capitalist country that exists in the world, and is the most meritocracy focused one as well. There exists almost no plutocracy when the whole country is about to be out of poverty by end of this year.

Plutocracy, by its core meaning, exists when there is a wide gap between rich and poor, where poor are unable to sustain themselves. Therefore, your statement is false.

I can definitely criticise both, but from what I am able to see, USA keeps lying and lying and lying all the time and justify their racism and international war crimes every single day. I wonder why there do not exist things like insane levels of bigotry or Karen culture in Asia or Eastern EU or Africa…

As a matter of fact, most USA states have a very shitty standard of life. Moreover the whole country is virulent now thanks to anti masker and anti vaxxer culture. California and New York are good examples. You are selling 2005 USA to me in 2020.

You can be an American fanboy if you want to. Again, you can criticise China as long as it is not baseless targeted propaganda. Either you are a loser troll or you simply hate CCP because that is what CFR media feeds you every night.

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I’m not going to continue this discussion:

  • You’re using whataboutism constantly, despite me saying that I don’t like the US or think it is a good country.
  • You’re creating a strawman by claiming that I’m “selling” you USA
  • You’re ignoring the Uighur genocide, despite there being objective proof of its existence. This means I cannot engage with you if you accept ethnocide as something you will tolerate.
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Nothing deters me from calling you an American fanboy, as you have proven here with your projection and false hatred spewing statements. There is no whataboutism, and you should go back to whatever new hatred echo chamber subreddit there is these days.

It would be better if you avoided me on the internet.

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You really need to check yourself. You’re the one who’s spewing hatred at me, when all I’ve done is expressed my viewpoint. No one is going to take your side in an argument if you treat them like this.

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I do not need to beg nobody to take my side unlike you who is selling me American dream since the past couple days. Shoo shoo, go away now.

You were not going to continue this conversation, were you?

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I said I wasn’t going to continue the discussion, which I haven’t. But I will continue the conversation to defend the fact that you have been attacking me while I have simply been sharing my opinion and acknowledging facts about the two countries

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Projection. The opposite has been happening all along, cornball.

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