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Everyone understands that technology became part of our lives, we cannot reject it and continue being the same human as we were few years ago.

I would like to kindly disagree a little bit with this statement. I know several old age people who do not use Internet, nor have a smart phone. I see that e.g. banks are trying to push people into using a phone app for bank transactions, but this still can be done with paper and envelop. (And by the way paying with cash in shops is still possible. Luckily we are not yet totally depending on one bank card, but old socks filled with coins at home can save the day ;) ) My guess is that, in the future, when the older generation is gone, and “app usage” has increased, pushing for apps will increase and alternatives will become even more difficult.

Speaking for myself, I like to use “dumb” phones for SMS and phone calls (Drawbacks : - 2G is not particularly privacy friendly/secure, and some providers will stop with 2G, like t-mobile will ditch 2G in November this year in Holland). My smart phone is almost always on airplane mode. I only use it for listening to audio, and occasionally for making photos and some apps or to quickly look up something. At home I turn wifi on the router off when I don’t need it. I like to block trackers and ad-filled websites with pi-hole on a Raspberry Pi and with Firefox add-ons like uMatrix. Lately I’ve enjoyed reading a few paper books, and with the lock down lifted I am looking forward to visit the local public library.

@Echedenyan
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I would like to kindly disagree a little bit with this statement. I know several old age people who do not use Internet, nor have a smart phone. I see that e.g. banks are trying to push people into using a phone app for bank transactions, but this still can be done with paper and envelop. (And by the way paying with cash in shops is still possible. Luckily we are not yet totally depending on one bank card, but old socks filled with coins at home can save the day ;) ) My guess is that, in the future, when the older generation is gone, and “app usage” has increased, pushing for apps will increase and alternatives will become even more difficult.

I agree with this idea. I think the same and I put as examples my own family and a lot of people in my town.

I can add even more: some companies like Movistar tell lies to old people to buy smartphones instead of the typical phones and pay for internet use, which they don’t know how to use or use itself, in the town.

I think that the idea is to provide a fake statistic about internet users and smartphones users in order to force some initiatives from the government and companies to make all services digital in which these ISP companies are paid by them, as well as take advantage of the money this old people receive after a life working.

I knew this last case some months ago when some people came with me frightened or wondering about something that the staff of the mobile store (the ones attached to a company like Movistar) told them and not just a few. I saw some people also affected paying other people from other mobile stores (independent ones) to install them whatsfuck and other apps because the bank or the store from attached to a company told them to use it but they have no idea how to use the smartphone.

This case also seems to not being causality because recently a bank here decreased its staff to attend people directly to make them use the electronic cashier out of the bank. The issue for the bank was that was not successful and had to make part of the staff tell people how to use the electronic cashier every time even to the same people because they don’t understand, and, in some cases, also make the things instead of them.

@ajz
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Thanks for sharing. Good to know that this is happening in other countries as well.

I think one reason that apps are being pushed (Not only by banks btw, but also newspaper sites, radio stations, and shops) is to track users, and profit from their “personal” fingerprint, either by “serving personalized ads” or sell to data-brokers. Also, when you get an end user to use your app it is likely that they will use the app again. Compare that to using the Internet via de desktop computer, where a bookmark of a website might be less visible than an app icon on the phone. What they don’t tell you is that smartphone are usually not so cool with battery life. The old “dumb” phones are so much better with that.

Anyway, I am glad that “technology” has not yet overloaded my life in that sense. Outside the trees are green (and suffering from the heat wave), the sky is blue.

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I’m still trying to find a balance :)

One thing I’ve done recently is reduce my Reddit usage as it was likely a small source of stress, especially during these times. Instead I mainly use Miniflux hosted on a raspberry pi to access a variety of RSS feeds and I’ve found it very enjoyable.

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